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Two-time Prometheus award-winning hard science fiction author. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005JPPMS6  Learn how to homestead https://www.amazon.com/dp/B093BC3K1T 

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    1. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

      15/ And conversely, if you can't afford a 90' wide combine that harvests your crops...then you don't need to space your crop rows at exactly the same width as the combine manufacturer builds his machine to.

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    2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

      16/ and on and on and on. Focus on that phrase: "making virtue out of necessity". IT encapsulates all that is good, and all that is bad with the permaculture (which stands for "permanent agriculture", btw) movement.

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    3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

      17/ As soon as virtue becomes part of the equation, some people start focusing on the virtue, and start virtue signalling, and playing status games. ** WE ** care about the Earth. ** YOU ** don't. ** WE ** are smart and realize that dirt erodes without crop cover. YOU ...

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    4. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

      18/ So, the three way argument about permaculture is "it's hippie nonsense / it's good ideas / it's what smart people are already doing". All three are correct, from different persecptives.

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    5. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

      19/ What part is nonsense? Two aspects: * theory by people who aren't on farms. They learn that pigs dig up land as they search for food, and they conclude "tractors are bad - use pigs instead. ALL NATURAL!" * people optimizing 1 variable, not all N that actually exist.

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    6. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

      20/ The theory people will tell you that you can use pigs to turn over earth. They don't focus on the fact that (a) pigs will run off, (b) it takes strong fences to keep them in, (c) it's a royal pain in the !@# to get a pig back home again. You've got 4 acres you want plowed?

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    7. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

      21/ ...and you're going to use pigs to do that? OK, you have to either (a) fence in those 4 acres [ I can give you a cost for this, and it's not cheap ], or ... well, there is no b. Also, pigs do not work on your schedule. Might take 4 years to get that field "plowed".

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    8. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

      22/ So let's look at the other half of the "why it's hippie nonensense" equation: optimizing one variable. [ I had a post on this back at http://tjic.com  before my bantz got to spicy for the MA puritans! ]

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    9. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

      23/ Pick up any farming mag (Grit for trads, Modern Pioneer for red staters, Modern Farmer for blue staters, etc.) and they will have a ton of articles on One Simple Way To Cut Your Bills. All you have to do is 90 HOURS OF WORK and have massive piles of crap in yard to save $6.

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    10. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

      24/ These articles focus on cutting costs to the expense of everything else. Other articles focus on 100% complete recycling of, I dunno, wood ash, or downed trees, or whatever. And they assume that other constraints (time, energy, space, aesthetics) don't exist.

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      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

      25/ OK, that's it w the hippie nonsense angle. Next angle (#2 of 3): good ideas. Yes, Permaculture has MANY good ideas!

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        2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          26/ I'm firmly in the Joel Salatin Christian farmer camp, and in the Backwoods Home red tribe / gray tribe techie camp. I want to treat my animals humanely, I want my land to respect God's glory...and I want to Science The !@#$ Out Of Stuff, because that's massive fun.

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        3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          27/ Also, I'm in the Robert Heinlein camp (already covered in red tribe / gray tribe comment) and want to learn to do everything myself: tractor maintenance, butchering, wood working, welding, making maple syrup, brewing beer, harvesting hay, remediating soil, etc.)

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        4. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          28/ So from this perspective, permaculture has many great ideas. If you're already putting down straw in the barn, then you've got waste...and you can compost that and put it on your gardens, and kill two birds with one stone (waste & fertilizer).

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        5. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          29/ Permaculture also has tons of ideas that DO work on multiple criteria at once. Growing your own pumpkins to feed to your own pigs on top of the hay bales that are too musty for the sheep to eat: * fun * aesthetic AF * harvest = nice outdoor labor in fall * saves money

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        6. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          30/ And if farming is your hobby, then there are endless fascinating recursive aspects to it. You can start breeding your own local varieties of animals or plants to deal with your microconditions (Hayekian local knowledge!) or write code about dirthttps://github.com/TJamesCorcoran/fertangular …

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        7. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          31/ and finally, the third aspect of it: permaculture is stuff that people are already doing. It's fun to be the young firebrand who says "the old timers JUST DON'T GET IT MAN". ...but you know what? The old timers often DO get it. A lot of what permaculture fans criticize >

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        8. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          32/ Is an extreme or parody or outdated view of farming. Farmers aren't dumb. Farmers aren't immoral (any more than the rest of humanity). Farmers are not ignorant of cutting edge tech. A lot of "permaculture innovations" are not.

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        9. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          33/ You think it's genius to compost animal waste from your barn and fertilize your fields with it? The market provides tools for this, everything from low tech manure spreader carts to deep ground liquified manure injection.

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        10. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          34/ A lot of permaculture fans, because they learn their stuff either in an academic (i.e. largely theoretical ) environment, or online, don't even KNOW about the world of professional farming.

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        11. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          35/ Anyway: permaculture has some good stuff, some bad stuff, and some stuff that everyone already knew. 1) get out there and farm...if you want to. If not, don't. 2) consider buying a copy of my novel to subsidize my farming lulz https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005JPPMS6  /exeunt

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        12. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Robb Allen

          36/ First, there WAS MORE FARMING THAN IN MOST SF slight spoiler. Book 3 & 4 will have a minor farming thread For two reasons: 1) tribute to Heinlein's Farmer in the Sky 2) the acronym FFA (Future Farmers of Aristillus) is just too perfect to ignorehttps://twitter.com/ItsRobbAllen/status/967106733041770496 …

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          Book was good. Not much backstory on farming though, TBH https://twitter.com/MorlockP/status/967103271109263362 …
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        13. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          37/ For anyone still reading, some pix of my farm... Icelandic sheep, some shorn, some notpic.twitter.com/WQsstDKu40

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        14. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          38/ a cold day with pigs and sheetpic.twitter.com/XeAa80t8sQ

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        15. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          39/ pigs on a warm daypic.twitter.com/Lhtkwq0cg0

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        16. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          40/ me, in front of firewood that I've cut, split, and stackedpic.twitter.com/QO45TN4sQD

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        17. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          41/ Pumpkin harvestpic.twitter.com/HAxWRq24uM

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        18. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          42/ greenhouse and raised beds before plantingpic.twitter.com/FoumGyAQSQ

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        19. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          43/ Christmas goose, 6 months before Christmaspic.twitter.com/efL4z3Rwii

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        20. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          44/ skinned and gutted pigpic.twitter.com/bXO7MQXygB

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        21. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          45/ starting to plant the vineyardpic.twitter.com/gyDn7Dfi9G

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        22. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          46/ the vineyard one year later, as we start making winepic.twitter.com/lsUAnvmZ2z

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        23. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          47/ making sausagepic.twitter.com/w63eLwiUXU

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        24. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          48/ bottle meadpic.twitter.com/sD8YwWXtBm

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        25. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          49/ dogs shortly after pig butcheringpic.twitter.com/W3QE63qkhM

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        26. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          50/ ...and that's about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1XgFsitnQw …

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        27. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

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          51/ Great question https://twitter.com/IcyTekla/status/967113882119663617 …

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        28. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 23 Feb 2018

          52/ answer https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12654140#12655610 …pic.twitter.com/DS41a643XC

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