Too facile, and adding epicycles. Now add another one "...and if you let your kid's teeth rot out bc you don't help her brush because you're on meth..." and "...and if you don't feed them because..." and...https://twitter.com/Melhyphen/status/948998820310011906 …
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it's nice and simple to say "drug use doesn't have victims", but it's TOO simple. So then you start No True Scotsman-ing the edge cases: "well, neglecting children BECAUSE of drugs isn't the same thing as drugs", etc.
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This is a perfect example of the epicycles / No True Scotsman I was talking about:https://twitter.com/onefiftyfivemm/status/949003438540521472 …
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How about this? Drugs are maybe OK for some people, and are very bad for other people, with large negative externalities. We shouldn't prohibit drugs not because "they're victimless", but because prohibition creates even MORE victims. (and also gov doesn't have the authority)
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Replying to @MorlockP
Most of the negative externalities are bullshit. The only reason drug fueled neglect is an externality is because guys with guns force me to remedy the externalities.
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are the kids being neglected not victims of externalities ?
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Definitely they are. Every action a "parent" takes has an effect on the kids. Drinking, gambling, nutritional choices, vaccine choices, saving, etc. Why am I responsible for any of the bad decisions some idiot parent makes?
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Designing a society around the concept of using Gov at all costs to stop dumb people from ruining their offspring is not very practical.
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I'm not arguing in favor of gov. I'm arguing against drug use being victimless. There is a difference. This is a 2x2 matrix.
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Ok, I'm jumping to the conclusion that if there are victims then gov is the answer. I apologize if that's not where you are going with that.
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not remotely! I'm a libertarian / ancap I'm just arguing that the argument "it's victimless" is wrong. There are other, better arguments for why the gov should not get involved.
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