what if it's bad for like 9 or 10 reasons?https://twitter.com/cvaldary/status/1504927799315943426 …
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4/ The problem I have w a utilitarian argument against evil is that if new studies show that facts aren't as we thought, then the one and only one barrier falls. "We shouldn't torture bc it produces lies" we found a new torture protocol "Carry on then!"https://twitter.com/notPotus42/status/1504962162367868933?t=iv-Q3lS9Y66l0V50XTjMpA&s=19 …
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"agreeing in principle, haggling about the particulars"
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The "torture doesn't work" line is for those who think that the end justify the means. That we're not making tough calls. "Well sure it's evil, but if we hooked up one awful guy to a car battery and it saved a thousand in a bombing..."
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Exhibit A in the case "Utilitarianism is the morality of Evil."
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It's good to have different arguments for different audiences. Some genuinely don't care about whether torture is "wrong" but will consider the points that it doesn't work and has measurable costs.
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Because ultimately they do work, usually if you define your goal differently than your stated one. (Although torture does work, as long as you have several informants)
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