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"we are hurting the poor by not letting them come here"
@st_rev has a good rule of thumb for evaluating claims of oppression: if the "bad" group went away, would that end the oppression ?
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15/ re "conquest": fine - hold a vote in Guatemala first. ...but if we're saying that conquest is bad, perhaps that has some bearing on the idea of subjecting 330 million Americans to 1 billion new neighbors who will immediately become their political enemies?
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16/ "America's institutions are good; Guatemalans deserve them" ok, let's just extend those to Guatemalans...to help them. "we can't subject 17 million Guatemalans to conquest" ok, fair "let's import 1B foreigners into America" isn't that conquest? "no, that's different"
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We will have to agree to disagree. I thought it was excellent.
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And so far as I could tell, he steelmanned every objection. Mostly, his opponents don’t phrase the objections as clearly and well as he does.
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