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Two-time Prometheus award-winning hard science fiction author. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005JPPMS6  Learn how to homestead https://www.amazon.com/dp/B093BC3K1T 

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    1. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Stimulant Appreciator

      86/https://twitter.com/paleonormie/status/1502358770961326082 …

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      Stimulant Appreciator @paleonormie
      Replying to @MorlockP
      Reaching post #80 and I’m starting to feel like my instincts were spot on and Urbit is exactly the “utopian project biting off more than it can chew” that I feared it would be from the tone of the website
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    2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted silicon age tulpa

      87/ yeah, I'm happy it's having some success! I just think that it will explode in popularity once someone writes the-very-last-ever-program-in-Hoon, which is the interpreter for some better languagehttps://twitter.com/mr_archenemy/status/1502360815009157121 …

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      silicon age tulpa @mr_archenemy
      Replying to @paleonormie @MorlockP
      otoh, seems to work well enough and afaict the userbase is growing. maybe market pressures will push it in less curtis-y directions?
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    3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted silicon age tulpa

      88/ yeah, absolutely! I'm not saying "Urbit is doomed". I wish it success, and I think it has a decent chance of success. I'm talking about what I see as a necessary (and perhaps inevitable?) step in its evolution / climb.https://twitter.com/mr_archenemy/status/1502361942253572097 …

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      silicon age tulpa @mr_archenemy
      Replying to @MorlockP
      well, if the user base grows enough, it will need to attract (lots) more developers - maybe a combination of "how do we get more developers?" and those developers they already have outside the gates waving pitchforks will lead to some improvements
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    4. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Vehicular Man's Laughter  🤾‍♂️ 💥 🚗

      89/ Folks inside the cult push back on absolutely every complaint from people banging on the doors saying "we're enthusiastic...we just can't understand the docs" by saying "they're casuals; the docs are great; if they WANTED to learn, they would"https://twitter.com/dendricide/status/1502363026414096390 …

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      Vehicular Man's Laughter  🤾‍♂️ 💥 🚗 @dendricide
      Replying to @MorlockP
      glad to have my impressions vindicated by someone with more involvement w the project pic.twitter.com/ytow8XLIYI
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    5. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Sam Hughes

      90/ yes! ...but that's a roundabout way of saying "...because of Curtis' sense of aesthetics"https://twitter.com/samuhyu/status/1502363384628477953 …

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      Sam Hughes @samuhyu
      Replying to @MorlockP
      I had assumed this was for some sensible reason having to do with being a distributed system and being purely functional. It actually had no arrays (and pure FP) solely for VM simplicity?
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    6. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted silicon age tulpa

      91/ on a side note, I will never stop laughing that "arch conservative" cyg is actually, temperamentally, a Year Zero Maoist who doesn't want to preserve cultural norms w slow evolution, but instead wipe EVERYTHING clean like Le Corbusier's Killdozerhttps://twitter.com/mr_archenemy/status/1502363492011098113 …

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      silicon age tulpa @mr_archenemy
      Replying to @MorlockP
      of course, curtis may be on to something, which is to say, when the youngsters find urbit they may not object so much to learning hoon (not having put in decades with things that, you know, "make sense", and still having somewhat plastic neural pathways).
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    7. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted silicon age tulpa

      92/https://twitter.com/mr_archenemy/status/1502363914528604172 …

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      silicon age tulpa @mr_archenemy
      Replying to @MorlockP
      forget about the developer docs (not a programmer, haven't really even looked at them), the USER docs are pretty bad and would be trivially easy to improve.
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    8. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Zero HP Lovecraft  🦅 🐍

      93/https://twitter.com/0x49fa98/status/1502365645085761540 …

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      Zero HP Lovecraft  🦅 🐍 @0x49fa98
      Replying to @MorlockP
      now I want to read your docs because every time I have glanced at the hoon docs I have gotten tired faster than simone biles
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    9. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

      94/ @0x49fa98 asks, and he receives https://tjic.com/archive/1_trees.txt … https://tjic.com/archive/2_subject.txt … https://tjic.com/archive/3_fp.txt … https://tjic.com/archive/4_trees.txt … https://tjic.com/archive/5_dojo.txt … https://tjic.com/archive/6_theory.txt … https://tjic.com/archive/7_clone_and_modify.txt … https://tjic.com/archive/8_clone_and_modify_more.txt … https://tjic.com/archive/8_cores.txt …

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    10. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

      95/ The above are the first 9 chapters of what was going to be an "Intro to Hoon" book, because I got strong pushback that "no, this is the wrong way to explain things, we don't support this". ...at which point I shut down my urbit planet and walked away, dismayed / disgusted.

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      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted saint heart  ✨ reopening shop delayed

      96/https://twitter.com/heartcafecup/status/1502368455613292544 …

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      saint heart  ✨ reopening shop delayed @heartcafecup
      it’s kinda insane how we hammer into first year CS students to use clear variable names and not just “myVariable” or “var1” and then you see industry people taking what looks like brainfuck seriously. https://twitter.com/MorlockP/status/1502327972598067207 …
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        2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          97/ men want just one thing, and it's !@#-ing disgusting [ documentation that actually explains things ]pic.twitter.com/0wuwqHbA6n

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        3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          98/pic.twitter.com/ErwCjeCXwK

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        4. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          99/ there is no tweet #99

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        5. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Lee

          100/ but tweet #100 is self referentialhttps://twitter.com/leepavelich/status/1502380533849858048 …

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          Lee @leepavelich
          .@MorlockP is writing a 100-tweet thread about Urbit pic.twitter.com/ZxnhuHdsDL
          2 replies 1 retweet 39 likes
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        6. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Philip Monk

          101/ @pcmonk's disagreements w me are threaded ; if you want an overview of his stance, you can jump in here and scrollhttps://twitter.com/pcmonk/status/1502307438023757829 …

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          Philip Monk @pcmonk
          Reminder that everyone who says this is making it up. I've been a part of the project for 8 years and have never seen anyone do anything intentionally to make things harder to understand (With the arguable exception of true==0) https://twitter.com/MorlockP/status/1502280882383695876?t=OIq_9owprmy772ryylWViA …
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        7. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Philip Monk

          102/ me: "Tlon has made a lot of decisions that make it very hard for interested newbs to understand WTF they're talking about" a Tlom emploee / Urbit defender: "yes...that's because WE DON'T THINK ABOUT YOU AT ALL" [ literal quote ]https://twitter.com/pcmonk/status/1502347522794147840 …

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          Philip Monk @pcmonk
          There's a sense in which this principle is "intentionally discomforting", but not to "the mundanes". It's just not a decision made for how it affects the learning process. "I don't think about you at all", etc
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        8. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted That Dubious Cat™

          103/ Exactly Tlon is content with some fraction of people [ 5% ? 0.5% ? ] who want to learn Hoon being able to succeed bc of selection bias: they poll among those who succeed. They freely admit (see prev tweet) that they don't think about newbs at all.https://twitter.com/ThatDubiousCat/status/1502390438866554883 …

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          That Dubious Cat™ @ThatDubiousCat
          Replying to @MorlockP @pcmonk
          Reads like there's a dissonance between getting people to program in Urbit to create lots of neat sharable things combining with "Fuck you, git gud, loser."
          1 reply 1 retweet 19 likes
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        9. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted ~hanfel-dovned

          104/ great!https://twitter.com/hanfel_dovned/status/1502392182434504707 …

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          ~hanfel-dovned @hanfel_dovned
          Replying to @0x49fa98 @MorlockP
          I'm relatively new to Urbit and can't speak to the history, but drastically improving the docs and education is one of the Foundation's main goals this year https://github.com/urbit/foundation …
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        10. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Lin Manuel Rwanda

          105/ I gave up on it, because trying to contribute to a thing and being yelled at is demoralizing. (also, I had a personal snit with a related Name where I was repeatedly insulted for no reason ... so ...)https://twitter.com/LinManuelRwanda/status/1502403669643431945 …

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          Lin Manuel Rwanda @LinManuelRwanda
          Replying to @MorlockP @0x49fa98
          I didn’t realise it was you who was doing this project. Always wondered what happened to it…
          1 reply 0 retweets 21 likes
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        11. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          106/pic.twitter.com/iWGu9Ir7nC

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        12. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted avery

          107/ wait - what does "1" mean?https://twitter.com/averykimball/status/1502406744680673280 …

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          avery @averykimball
          wood u use a binary measurement system
          1 reply 0 retweets 18 likes
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        13. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted ~rabsef-bicrym of Quartus

          108/ very happy to hear it!https://twitter.com/SafePen/status/1502407383145848833 …

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          ~rabsef-bicrym of Quartus @SafePen
          The docs are really straightforward and helpful now. They deserve a review if you haven’t looked in 4-6 months. https://twitter.com/MorlockP/status/1502314993924153355 …
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        14. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Eddie, Son of Richard

          109/https://twitter.com/random_eddie/status/1502408410704265216 …

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          Eddie, Son of Richard @random_eddie
          Replying to @MorlockP @pcmonk
          this is fucking hysterical "get the pedagogy right" IT'S NOT THAT FUCKING HARD pic.twitter.com/bP7EMRpal3
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        15. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Eddie, Son of Richard

          110/https://twitter.com/random_eddie/status/1502408526802690052 …

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          Eddie, Son of Richard @random_eddie
          Replying to @random_eddie @MorlockP @pcmonk
          If you have to "go into research mode, both theoretical and applied" in order to figure out how to a) teach someone a new programming language and b) explain to consumers what your product does... maybe you shouldn't be the ones trying to do that.
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        16. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Eddie, Son of Richard

          111/https://twitter.com/random_eddie/status/1502408992366153731 …

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          Eddie, Son of Richard @random_eddie
          Replying to @random_eddie @MorlockP
          pic.twitter.com/be7bjWyJyT
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        17. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Robin Hanson

          112/ Hot damn, even @robinhanson wants in on the Urbit thread!https://twitter.com/robinhanson/status/1502410521697390594 …

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          Robin HansonVerified account @robinhanson
          You could either try to make (A) your own thoughts cleaner & more coherent, or you could try to do that for the writings of a (B) random college student, (C) current world leader, or (D) famous thinker in history. Whose thoughts would you rather clean & make coherent?
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        18. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          113/pic.twitter.com/YKbwTJSLiZ

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        19. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          114/pic.twitter.com/33xhNbYR02

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        20. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          115/ Yeah, once I figured out - despite the best efforts of the documentation writers - that the One Big Secret of Hoon was that you can't modify data, but you can clone-data-with-modifications, and then execute inside that cloned subject, it blew my mind. Very simple Very cool

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        21. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Lin Manuel Rwanda

          116/ Yeah, the jets seem deeply problematic to me. No time to type now; maybe I'll add more to this thread later.https://twitter.com/LinManuelRwanda/status/1502414340284157954 …

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          Lin Manuel Rwanda @LinManuelRwanda
          Replying to @MorlockP @robinhanson
          The thing with the memory issue still bugs me from time to time at 3am. If you’re going to rely on jets to get you out of every jam, surely the “replacing all other computing” thing is completely impossible right out the gate and you’re just fucked, right?
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        22. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted cyr

          117/https://twitter.com/cyr_actual/status/1502415662764937224 …

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          cyr @cyr_actual
          Replying to @LeonDeg37825780 @MorlockP
          It would be nice to have a bit of a cheat sheet though. I've found a couple but really I just need to dig in & RTFM
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        23. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          118/pic.twitter.com/gKgAaIZjiD

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        24. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Eric Richards

          119/ I find this insanely annoying it's more "the Apple way" than "the Unix way". Shell should just accept what I type and then give me error msgs, not constrain my ability to enter input. Almost get the impression it was designed by some reactionary.https://twitter.com/EricRichards22/status/1502416903691718658 …

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          Eric Richards @EricRichards22
          Replying to @MorlockP
          It's always fun trying to type anything into the urbit dojo or whatever the hell they call their bash shell, and it rejects keystrokes that it thinks are invalid...
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        25. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Eddie, Son of Richard

          120/ mic_drop.gif nuclear_explosion.jpghttps://twitter.com/random_eddie/status/1502417437593120771 …

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          Eddie, Son of Richard @random_eddie
          Replying to @MorlockP
          >It's good that the wall is so hard to scale. This should only be for the elite. It's bad on purpose to make you clique.
          2 replies 1 retweet 28 likes
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        26. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Eric Richards

          121/https://twitter.com/EricRichards22/status/1502417923054481417 …

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          Eric Richards @EricRichards22
          Replying to @cyr_actual @LeonDeg37825780 @MorlockP
          This was the most helpful thing I ever found https://blog.urbit.live/hello-world-urbit-edition/ …
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        27. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Eddie, Son of Richard

          122/ somewhat, yes! this is why I am not blackpilled on Urbit.https://twitter.com/random_eddie/status/1502419355132469251 …

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          Eddie, Son of Richard @random_eddie
          Replying to @MorlockP
          So, setting aside the (accusedly) deliberate lack of helpful documentation... Does Hoon itself further the ostensible "martian computer" mission of ensuring high-quality software by making the software easy to reason about and thus become confident in its correctness?
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        28. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          123/ By making networking simple and putting invariants around it, and then insisting that every piece of software (a) runs in a very very simple VM that is correct, and (b) never accesses [ potentially race conditioned ] state, but only accesses state that is modified via 'a' >

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        29. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          124/ I am far more convinced about the logical correct behavior of a given stack built in pure Hoon VM / Nock / Hoon. Now, I said LOGICALLY correct ...not code correct. You can definitely write buggy software ...but by avoiding a thousand different kinds of undefined behavior

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        30. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          125/ ...you have definitely created a much much much better situation. So this part is wonderful, and I love it. HOWEVER ... now we get to the JQ

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        31. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Mar 11

          126/ "the Jet Question" The Nock VM is super basic, has very few operations, and does not, for example, support subtraction So how do you calculate 999 - 3? The correct Nock approach is, IIRC, to start with 0, add 3 to it, and see if that's 999. If not, try 1, add 3 to it...

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