81/ What I'd like to see is * a decent language (lisp like, if you like prefix operators and parents, or Ruby like, if you like chaining postfix operators) written in Hoon, and then Hoon sealed off and abandoned forever and ever * decent docs
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@0x49fa98 asks, and he receives https://tjic.com/archive/1_trees.txt … https://tjic.com/archive/2_subject.txt … https://tjic.com/archive/3_fp.txt … https://tjic.com/archive/4_trees.txt … https://tjic.com/archive/5_dojo.txt … https://tjic.com/archive/6_theory.txt … https://tjic.com/archive/7_clone_and_modify.txt … https://tjic.com/archive/8_clone_and_modify_more.txt … https://tjic.com/archive/8_cores.txt …Show this thread -
95/ The above are the first 9 chapters of what was going to be an "Intro to Hoon" book, because I got strong pushback that "no, this is the wrong way to explain things, we don't support this". ...at which point I shut down my urbit planet and walked away, dismayed / disgusted.
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97/ men want just one thing, and it's !@#-ing disgusting [ documentation that actually explains things ]pic.twitter.com/0wuwqHbA6n
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100/ but tweet #100 is self referentialhttps://twitter.com/leepavelich/status/1502380533849858048 …
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@pcmonk's disagreements w me are threaded ; if you want an overview of his stance, you can jump in here and scrollhttps://twitter.com/pcmonk/status/1502307438023757829 …Show this thread -
102/ me: "Tlon has made a lot of decisions that make it very hard for interested newbs to understand WTF they're talking about" a Tlom emploee / Urbit defender: "yes...that's because WE DON'T THINK ABOUT YOU AT ALL" [ literal quote ]https://twitter.com/pcmonk/status/1502347522794147840 …
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103/ Exactly Tlon is content with some fraction of people [ 5% ? 0.5% ? ] who want to learn Hoon being able to succeed bc of selection bias: they poll among those who succeed. They freely admit (see prev tweet) that they don't think about newbs at all.https://twitter.com/ThatDubiousCat/status/1502390438866554883 …
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105/ I gave up on it, because trying to contribute to a thing and being yelled at is demoralizing. (also, I had a personal snit with a related Name where I was repeatedly insulted for no reason ... so ...)https://twitter.com/LinManuelRwanda/status/1502403669643431945 …
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107/ wait - what does "1" mean?https://twitter.com/averykimball/status/1502406744680673280 …
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108/ very happy to hear it!https://twitter.com/SafePen/status/1502407383145848833 …
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112/ Hot damn, even
@robinhanson wants in on the Urbit thread!https://twitter.com/robinhanson/status/1502410521697390594 …Show this thread -
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115/ Yeah, once I figured out - despite the best efforts of the documentation writers - that the One Big Secret of Hoon was that you can't modify data, but you can clone-data-with-modifications, and then execute inside that cloned subject, it blew my mind. Very simple Very cool
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116/ Yeah, the jets seem deeply problematic to me. No time to type now; maybe I'll add more to this thread later.https://twitter.com/LinManuelRwanda/status/1502414340284157954 …
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119/ I find this insanely annoying it's more "the Apple way" than "the Unix way". Shell should just accept what I type and then give me error msgs, not constrain my ability to enter input. Almost get the impression it was designed by some reactionary.https://twitter.com/EricRichards22/status/1502416903691718658 …
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120/ mic_drop.gif nuclear_explosion.jpghttps://twitter.com/random_eddie/status/1502417437593120771 …
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