- America is a country founded on the belief that secession is good; I refuse to consider "traitor" a valid complaint, except in very very narrow situations. - all regimes are slave regimes ; Confederacy had 4 million, the Great Society enslaved 2.2 million to fight in Vietnamhttps://twitter.com/d08890/status/1490694797534793730 …
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Replying to @MorlockP
I think it was founded on the belief that people have a right to overthrow tyrannical government. The colonials only became traitors and seceded because their government had already betrayed their rights as Englishmen.
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Replying to @FahadMAlam @MorlockP
And by right of conquest, colonials achieved independence. I contend Confederacy got exactly what they wanted (independence from tyrannical gov’t) without firing a shot - then f-ed it up by firing a shot.
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Well, they won a military conflict, sure, but I wouldn't call natives achieving independence a conquest. Conquests as generally understood are expeditionary efforts. How did the Confederacy achieve independence prior to firing a single shot? I've never heard this before.
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Replying to @FahadMAlam @MorlockP
Union abandoned all forts on Confederate soil, without conflict. Only fort retained was Sumter, which was on an artificial island made by Union military - it was literally U.S. Naval property in every way possible, including SC signing over all rights thereto. CSA attacked it.
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Lincoln explicitly raised troops to put down the rebellion BEFORE Sumter. Don’t get me wrong, not attacking Sumter might’ve made the border states come too/won the war for the South, but the North wasn’t allowing an illegal, (in their view) unconstitutional slave state
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North had slaves at the time, and slavery was both constitutional and legal.
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I mean secession, not slavery.
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