"We" always makes me reach for my revolver "We would rely" this is a very female / prog frame "what do we get for free [ from people who are obligated to give it ]". I'd be more interested in a formulation that addressed why those people would want to give it.
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Replying to @NoLongerBennett
I think you've got a core point that I agree with - that people thrive when they have a purpose, that "enjoy yourself" is not a purpose that satisfies this, that our conception of retirement is sometimes that, and that therefore our current conception of retirement does not lead
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Replying to @MorlockP @NoLongerBennett
to thriving. There are related thoughts floating around near that first thought that I strongly disagree with: that grandparents "should" either be pressed into childcare or "should" prefer that, that it's better if we were poorer and couldn't retire at 65, etc.
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Replying to @MorlockP @NoLongerBennett
retirement is a luxury, and some people misuse luxuries, just as alcohol is a luxury and some people misuse it. I don't want a norm where people aren't allowed to drink, nor do I want to regress society so that drink does not exist.
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Replying to @MorlockP @NoLongerBennett
also, there is unwarranted aggregation going on here - "people". Given financial security at age 65 SOME people will sit on the couch and eat cheetohs until death. Others will travel. Others will write the novels they never had the time to.
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(tangentially, a phrase I like is "retirement is not an age, it's a net worth" - although actually it's retirement optionality)
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