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    ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Jan 24

    1/ I don't think we should get involved in Ukraine. However, here is the steelman argument for getting involved in Ukraine: * we promised Ukraine we would, and they handed over their nukes bc of ithttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum_on_Security_Assurances …

    12:27 PM - 24 Jan 2022
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    • AGB (pondering.orb) 🔮🌻 Jeff Weimer Pope BeinhartS Cristi Vicas George A. Freeland, WEVR ⏳elias⌛ King Tekk the American Tektōn Slicin' Hammer ⚠️
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      2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Jan 24

        2/ * if we don't live up to our promise, (a) we make it entirely clear that agreements like this in the future are 100% worthless, and (b) therefore we incentivize future people to never trust us / sign such agreements, and (c) also we incentivize EVERYONE to develop WMDs TODAY

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      3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Jan 24

        ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Zach Frey

        3/ Bayesian theory says that 2 data points is better proof than 1https://twitter.com/znfrey/status/1485711268036202501 …

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        Zach Frey @znfrey
        Replying to @MorlockP
        I thought Libya had already demonstrated this.
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      4. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP Jan 24

        ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted José Moreira  🇦🇴 🏳️

        4/ gosh, what are the chances that I read the third paragraph in the page I linked to in the top tweet?https://twitter.com/zmoreira/status/1485721750130339840 …

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        José Moreira  🇦🇴 🏳️ @zmoreira
        Replying to @MorlockP
        They never really had nukes. Russia had operational control. There was no way Russia was going to let them keep the warheads. The Memorandum provides political cover for that. Otherwise we would have the Budapest Treaty.
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      1. Scholar-At-Arms‏ @scholaratarms Jan 24
        Replying to @MorlockP

        It was a stupid promise, one of GHWB's worst mistakes, and we should still honor it. I hate it, but it's right.

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      1. BryceBeattie‏ @BryceBeattie Jan 24
        Replying to @MorlockP

        Do we still have their nukes in a suburban storage unit somewhere? Can we just send them back?

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      2. Craig‏ @csmjr91090 Jan 24
        Replying to @MorlockP

        But we didn’t promise Ukraine that. It’s not a defense agreement, it is a non-aggression pact. The U.S., UK, Russia, and China all agreed they would respect Ukraine’s territorial integrity. So we have no legal nor moral obligation to defend them.

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      3. May He Be Found Humble And True‏ @SojoXX Jan 25
        Replying to @csmjr91090 @MorlockP

        May He Be Found Humble And True Retweeted just this guy, y’know?

        Gonna have to agree with this take; especially since it only mentions use of nukes against Ukraine (from my quick read of it says). Good breakdown from this guy:https://twitter.com/TommyMarion10/status/1486027539009179649?t=0BhayxEA0wNam7Rjd8KesQ&s=19 …

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        just this guy, y’know? @TommyMarion10
        Replying to @RobertofStruan @mikenelson586
        We did not guarantee Ukraine's sovereignty or its borders under the Budapest Memorandum.
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      2. Canola oil did 9/11‏ @Bugs_Meany Jan 24
        Replying to @MorlockP

        "we promised" i think on the scale of seriousness of international law (ha!), where 'convention' & 'treaty' are on the high-end, 'resolutions'/'agreements' in the middle... 'memoranda' are sort of like "well its something on paper, but don't expect it to mean anything" tho...

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      3. Canola oil did 9/11‏ @Bugs_Meany Jan 24
        Replying to @Bugs_Meany @MorlockP

        ... i've pointed at that doc myself a bunch of times, and feel (similar to you i guess) that its still sort of interesting from the POV of, "US credibility in nuclear diplomacy" treating it as meaningless is fine, but that's prob also how Iran feels about any deal we offer

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      2. José Moreira  🇦🇴 🏳️‏ @zmoreira Jan 24
        Replying to @MorlockP

        They never really had nukes. Russia had operational control. There was no way Russia was going to let them keep the warheads. The Memorandum provides political cover for that. Otherwise we would have the Budapest Treaty.

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      3. Camping Roomba‏ @ctdonath Jan 24
        Replying to @zmoreira @MorlockP

        As though a large box of cash, motivated gunmen, and anonymous truck couldn’t make them disappear to a suitable, um, Persian locksmith or some such.

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