2/ Restitution is obviously good - if you break my window, you should buy me a new one. Simple tort. Incapacitation is the thing that I fixate on. If you commit a crime you should lose, IMO, the privilege of interacting w decent people. Make Exile Great Again.
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3/ I like the Icelandic concept of "outlaw". If you defect from the legal system, you are no longer under the protection of the legal system. The State does not kill you ... but nor does the state care if you get killed.https://twitter.com/LAWGermany/status/1469683324058755081 …
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4/ that, but also ... rehab doesn't work. If you have some idea about how the kind of people who staff the DMV can change human nature, I'm all ears tho.https://twitter.com/braintree0173/status/1469681480444035074 …
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5/ well, we SHOULD exile hobos, fwiwhttps://twitter.com/averykimball/status/1469686637818961926 …
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>rehab doesn't work nah more like locking people in cages and beating the shit out of them isn't rehab agreed on restitution being good, and incapacitation is obviously necessary when rehab isn't possible or isn't working. but not instead of trying to find a way for rehab to work
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RE retribution: it's important for the system to have a retributive element or victims of crime will seek their own justice. There's no satisfactory restitution a rapist could pay a victim's father. Give him the noose.
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Valid. I suppose I am halfway ok with it.
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The problem with retribution- it seems to me, at least - is that it's the only viable path for the casually atheist and/or the functionally Pagan, which describes a nontrivial percentage of people across recent history.
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Re effective deterrence: certainty of being caught & punished, and quick punishment after the offense, turn out to matter far more than how unpleasant the punishment is.
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