Heh, I love the "Japan was about to collapse so both the invasion plan and the nuke plan were evil" line of argument we get anymore (it pops up in thr comments)
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/2 the way this was handled by my US history and military history teacher was we were given all the same Intel assessments and memos and plan options as Truman had. Japan being about to collapse on its own was one assessment, but it wasn't favored because of//
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I mean I don’t know how much more of a warning the people of Nagasaki could have gotten than the sun falling on Hiroshima.
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I just like how he immediately admits the leaflet-dropping campaign happened. Stopped reading there. It's more than we had to do. You start a war with a country, you do not get to dictate terms of how they may respond.
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He said the two cities weren't on the leaflets
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One thing he's right about is that we talk about warnings to make it easier to "justify" the bombings. The real problem here is that people don't get how the bombings were justified in a huge war marked by atrocities after atrocities. The same critics defended the Taliban.
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The bombing was incredibly unjust and immoral. Giving warning would have made it less so but still wouldn't have been good. Murdering Innocents is still murder even with warning.
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The fallacy lies in the assumption that any specific warning was needful. Once that is done away with the whole discussion is a circle jerk. "War. Watch the fuck out. EOM."
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