But we get advice all the time in a great many ways, and that doesn't make us lazy. To me a person getting advice seems just as much an "agent" as one who doesn't.
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Replying to @robinhanson
I am more responding to this sentence > But we chose to forgo the huge productivity gains often realized in military, school, and orphanage dorms, and instead we each did our own food, clothes, home decorations, etc. than to the topic of advice that your post centers on.
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Replying to @MorlockP
I don't think anyone sees soldiers as lazy for not cooking their own meals.
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Replying to @robinhanson
The sentence in question basically asked "why do soldiers not have a problem with outsourcing their meal production, but middle class people do?" my answer is conservation of agency. The soldier is doing high status work and can outsource meal production without loss of agency>
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Replying to @MorlockP @robinhanson
the insurance adjuster working in a cube all day, processing TPS forms, is doing something that does not register as having status or agency, and thus jealously guards a task that provides some measure of agency / status / skill signalling. I suggest that he may have a desire >
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Replying to @MorlockP @robinhanson
to do this based on ancient norms of "I have to demonstrate that I can do SOMETHING"
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Replying to @MorlockP
Are there poll questions you think might help test your theory?
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Replying to @robinhanson
good question as a first stab at it, I could imagine: * cooking displays competence and agency, Y/N ? * mowing your lawn displays competence and agency, Y/N ? * cleaning toilets displays competence and agency, Y/N ? followed by >>>
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Replying to @MorlockP @robinhanson
2/ imagine that you are transferred to a new job with the same hours and pay as now, but with less agency. Your new job provides one free home service. then ask which service they take paired with question reversed: transferred to job w less agency
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Replying to @MorlockP
What is "agency"? It is the same as autonomy, independence, or power?
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I think the first two options you present are very similar, and, yes, that's what I'm getting at. Power is certainly related, but indirectly I think, bc most high autonomy / independent jobs are either upstream or downstream of power (not all, tho, e.g. cab driver).
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Replying to @MorlockP
I find it very hard to apply such concepts to the aggregate of a life. In a society like ours, we can't all do everything, and must let others do most things, so how can some such variations be called "more agency"?
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Replying to @robinhanson
I am arguing that TASKS have high or low autonomy and independence. Surely you agree that your life as an econ professor allows you more of both of those than someone working in a call center, off of a script? I am then arguing that people balance high and low agency tasks.
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