meh so, first of all, almost all trees have finite lifespans, and if they aren't logged, they'll die of old age 2nd, huge trees aren't turned into paper - they are lovingly resawed to generate very very wide planks, which go for an ultra premium and which are used for tabletops https://twitter.com/meta_nomad/status/1397874032880590850 …
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3/ Dimensions (TxWxL)3.80″ x 42″ - 50″ x 196″ Price: $7,178.99https://www.woodslabs.com/p-12702-parota-wood-slab-t6w-0la-ny58.aspx …
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5/ As always, markets are the best way to deal with scarce, precious resources, and make sure that waste is minimized and maximum value is captured.
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6/ I disagree with this. First: again, note that trees have finite lifespans. Choice: log or allow to fall and rot. Second: you either quantify or you don't. If you don't, you make bad decisions that destroy value.https://twitter.com/meta_nomad/status/1397877609250308097 …
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7/ Tree lifespans: average and maximum. http://bigtree.cnre.vt.edu/lifespan.html
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10/ absolutely agreed: things can be destroyed / wasted toohttps://twitter.com/meta_nomad/status/1397878930149941253 …
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11/ yeah, there's no way to put a log on a boat where it can be brought to a sawmill that will convert it into $150,000 of high grade lumber; the only option is to chip it locally to create $500 of firewood pelletshttps://twitter.com/faisal_moola/status/1397722987596558338 …
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12/ 1) trees have a finite lifespan; this keeps being skipped over 2) your subjective appreciation IS an acknowledgement of value 3) if we don't quanitify than we make decisions at random / via intuition (and thus they are likely bad decisions)https://twitter.com/meta_nomad/status/1397879370048475145 …
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13/ > , my subjective appreciation of that tree alive and standing will always override it as some table. yet you are not purchasing live trees to protect them from logging, so via principle of revealed preference, no, you don't actually care enough to override the table option
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14/ OK, but this comes back to revealed preferences. You could do a job that's less fun and generates more income which you could use to "appreciate nature". Or you could run a podcast and say that other people should do X. >>> https://twitter.com/meta_nomad/status/1397880540481662983 …
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15/ I work hard at a career that is often frustrating and infuriating, and I use the income from that to acquire land and forest, and then manage that forest in a way that preserves habitats, generates wood fuel, and optimizes for aesthetics. >>>
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16/ All of life is tradeoffs. A tree either rots or is logged. An individual either does a fun job and has less power over his environment, or has a grinding job and has more power to manage land.https://twitter.com/HorrorsGreeley/status/1397881538927267840 …
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17/ Agreed. I've got a few massive tree trunks in my forest, on their side, 3/4 rotted and covered with moss. On the one hand, sure, aesthetic...but on the other, that coulda been a timber framed workshop or a kitchen table for a family.https://twitter.com/EricRichards22/status/1397881410548084736 …
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18/ getting back to forest management and principle of revealed preference: commercial loggers actually do a pretty good job on improving / maintaining forest health, but they are bound by certain constraints (how much landowners will pay, how much lumber mills will pay). If >>
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19/ >>> you have aesthetic preferences that trump that, and you want to give a level of attention to details and hands on care that "makes no sense" at a commercial level, then you need to take matters into your own hands and lavish unreasonable levels of work on the project.
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20/ I have very specific goals for my 40 acres of forest , and I've invested a lot of time in learning about forest management, and I've invested a lot of money in tools. I'm carefully dropping dead trees, clearing ancient rock walls, working w my wife to plant new trees, >>>
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21/ piling slash (tree lopped off limbs) in the undercanopy to slowly rot and return nutrients to the soil (and provide habitats for creatures in the intervening decades), cut out and burn invasive species that kill trees, etc. This is hard work. If you want THIS, do THIS.
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22/ Jack Nicholson voice: "Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a w̶e̶a̶p̶o̶n̶ few acres, a logging helmet, a chainsaw, a forestry trimmer, a spade, some saplings, and stand a post."https://twitter.com/CarlHedgren/status/1397883372924506113 …
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24/ This is the point that I keep coming back to, and that n̶o̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶ few people want to acknowledge. We have no idea if that tree was live when it was logged, and I'd actually bet $1 that it was not.https://twitter.com/cyr_actual/status/1397883826802728962 …
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25/ People dislike this point bc it interferes w forces-of-good vs forces-of-evil narrative. Far better to DECLARE that these short sighted merchants KILLED J̶E̶S̶U̶S̶ a tree for not reason other than love of dollars than to consider that maybe this is just pragmatism.
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26/ Genes strive to perpetuate themselves. Any one individual tree is just a temporary vessel.https://twitter.com/EvanMcM/status/1397884544037097475 …
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