Kind of annoying though when people miscategorise such stories as being hard sci-fi... Makes finding actual hard sf quite... Hard
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Replying to @Cererean @KarlKGallagher and
If you're disqualifying anything that has technology that hasn't yet been invented, I'm not sure you're talking about science fiction at all. e.g. you reference Lockstep, which I'm not familiar with, but Amazon says a character has been that he's been "asleep for 14,000 years"
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Replying to @robkroese @Cererean and
... which is as impossible as antigravity or time travel, given current technology
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Replying to @robkroese @KarlKGallagher and
No. No it isn't You'd have a point perhaps, if you had a working example of an antigravity device or time machine, like we have animals revived after being frozen for many millennia They are NOT comparable
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Replying to @Cererean @KarlKGallagher and
We can revive tardigrades, yeah And we can send photons into the past You're splitting hairs
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Replying to @robkroese @Cererean and
Nearly all hard SF has one or two fantastical elements, and they are often crucial to the plot. There are very, very few pure hard SF novels, not enough to constitute their own genre. The Martian by Andy Weir probably qualifies.
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Replying to @WoodFenton @robkroese and
Then it isn't hard sf People just call it that because they want to pretend that their fantasy is somehow better than other fantasy
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Replying to @Cererean @robkroese and
It would be interesting to compile a list of pure hard SF. However, the genre expectations for hard SF allow a few deviations from reality. This has been established by literally every single classic in the genre. Genre is defined by conventions, not pedantry
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Replying to @WoodFenton @Cererean and
Even the Martian doesn't qualify by this person's definition, as we don't currently have the technology to go to Mars. If someone wants hard scifi with no fantastical elements, the reasonable way to express that would be "I'm looking for hard scifi with no fantastical elements."
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Replying to @robkroese @WoodFenton and
(I don't have a lot of patience for someone who says "can you help me find x?" and it turns out, after good faith attempts to assist them, that they are using an esoteric definition of x purely for the purposes of recreational pedantry). Hence, muted
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I clicked on this thread and all the dumb stuff was missing, bc I'd muted the person years ago. Smart decision.
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