1/ This right-wing attempt to defend Jews from right-wing anti-semites ... whew, lads, left me 0.1% more anti-semitic afterwards than going into it.https://twitter.com/Outsideness/status/1362378043642109955 …
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2/ neo-nazis: Jews are terrible because they never feel true loyalty to the places they inhabit; they're always a fifth column, lurking, waiting. You can see it in their politics: they always try to subvert their host countries.
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3/ me: no, that's not fair. Lots of Jews are super patriotic. David Goldman: yeah, no, let me quote from my article: "For two thousand years, the Jewish people have looked askance at the countries they inhabit."
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Replying to @MorlockP
I'm super patriotic *and* I look askance. My "loyalty" to Israel and a robust Jewish community, weak as it is, is of the nature of a fallout shelter.
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Replying to @SavageNoMore @MorlockP
I can understand that for the typical American Jew, yeah. I think it's true for the typical American Jew. For me it's literally a contingency plan in case the historical norm of violent antisemitism re-surges. In most other cases where America goes down, so does Israel.
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Shea Levy @shlevyReplying to @ITBeHa @MorlockPYeah, my stance in this case is odd because I'm philosophically American and not at all Jewish except superficial cultural and biological ties and knowing Judaism well. I only keep an eye out because there are some who will view those ties as relevant.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
(disagree about Israel strengthening itself at US expense but that's not fundamental to these points)
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Agreed that Israel, especially the further back you go, has benefited far more from the arrangement than we have. But I think it's positive sum and mutually beneficial still, it is in our interest to have other rational free productive countries flourishing.
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