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6/ Saying (implicitly) "it's unfair to expect me to have used my faculties ; you should realize that ALL OF US learn only sticking our dicks into the mousetraps" is an attempt to evade moral responsibility for what every reasonable person knows.
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7/ It's also a diffusion of responsibility. "It wasn't MY duty to not shop lift ; that's just a developmental stage people go through in their 20s." Sin / Redemption narrative is a lot more honest than Wonderful Growth Journey narrative.
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9/ Absolutely. If someone grows up on a hippy commune and has no exposure to ideas like "civilization is built on monogramy", they get some leeway. [ and this describes more and more of the youth in our degenerate, terminal stage "civilization" ]https://twitter.com/shlevy/status/1349071988137013250 …
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12/ I guess the reason that I'm most peeved about this is the negative externalities. Every one person with a bad meme about relationships, casual sex, etc. (a) has a chance of creating children who end up in a broken home, (b) same, except end up murdered in utero, >>>
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13/ (c) delays their own family formation [ 95% internalities, but some externalities vs the baseline of normal human behavior, bc civilization requires children, (d) lowers market value / marriageability of others Stupid Relationship Tricks is defection in game of civilization
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14/ Having Just One One Night Stand, or Engaging in a Throuple Until I Grew Up And Learned Better is like soliciting just one bribe, or throwing just one can of used motor oil in the river. The marginal effects may be pretty minor, but the cumulative effects aren't.
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15/ And my anger is because this touches on the sin of Scandal - by rationalizing civilization defecting actions as a "stage", it legitimizes it for the impressionable. 17 year old reading stuff is like "oh, ha ha, doing X is a Rite of Passage and not only is it not Bad but ...
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16/ it'll Help Me Grow Up and constitute a Cache of Fun Stories Later. Meanwhile families that could have / should have come into existence, don't, the dating / courting market is distorted, hearts are broken, and Norms are Degraded.
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17/ It's quite something to be living through the death of a civilization.
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18/ aDvAnCe tHe cUlTuRe https://twitter.com/TurmericMonster/status/1349075796040822790 …
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19/ Not going off on OP and maybe I should delete #1 in this thread.
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20/ OK #1 is deleted, and apologies to OP for seeming to poke at him, which was not my intent
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21/ OP <anon> it is my firm belief that being sure youve found a way to hack relationships is an important developmental stage Show this thread
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22/ my response (previously #1 in this thread) ehhhhhh "getting run over by cars is an important developmental step" I dunno, maybe non-retarded people can learn from the lessons of others, and/or reason things out ahead of time instead of being stupid?
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24/ Americans have ~1.5 kids on average. but, hey, WASTING YOUR PEAK REPRODUCTIVE YEARS DOING IDIOTIC CIVILIZATION DESTROYING HEDONISTIC IDIOCY is a Wonderful Growth Stage.
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26/ Rich white kids Experimenting With Relationships throws off negative externalities in another way: they often CAN get away with it, without life-wrecking damage. You can go through a poly phase for 5 years and bc you're highly conscientious, no one gets pregnant.
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27/ You can waste 10 years of your life in a "harem", and when you come out the other side, older than Nature intended for children, you can afford very expensive doctors and shots.
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28/ Being a "hot mess" or a "difficult woman" or a "redefining relationships" can cause a big mess, but with a credit line and a good resume, you can bail out of the flaming wreckage before it crashes to the ground. ...but now that standard has been normalized.
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29/ and not JUST normalized, but CELEBRATED as a Wonderful Growth Journey. And who listens to our beautiful, upper upper middle class, credentialed elite? Everyone, basically. Now put those memes in Bubba, or even just Joe Sixpack, and watch what happens.
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30/ There are a LOT of corpses of infants in the landfills, thanks to Wonderful Growth Journeys, and a lot of people sterilized by VD, and a lot of sad, lonely souls out there. The wreckage is hidden off-stage though.
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31/ on the other hand, what are a few million corpses of infants next to the power and glory of a Wonderful Growth Journey, though ?
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32/ Getting DMs from a few people who have been caught in the blast radius of other people's Wonderful Growth Journey. Humans are wired for astounding levels of selfishness, augmented with a "negative externalities don't real" shield.
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33/ Yep ; I'm not saying anything new; I'm just saying old things, BUT ANGRIER.https://twitter.com/ElamBend/status/1349117640552407045 …
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34/ Yep, I've certainly witnessed this "have your cake and eat it too" behavior - people want to simultaneously brag that they've been Saved By Jesus ... but also want to brag that You Know, They've Definitely Got What It Takes To Make The Panties Drop. https://twitter.com/AndToddsaid/status/1349121273276878850 …
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