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    2. KeepCalmAndDrawl‏ @FormerlyFormer 14 Dec 2020
      Replying to @LibertyFarmNH @wraithburn @MorlockP

      Over-zealous policing/mistreatment of sinners is hard enough to avoid when your faith has those balancing concepts. Because humans suck. Without even having that framework? There’s no limit, and really no way to even argue there SHOULD be.

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    3. Jordan Lewis‏ @jordanthelawyer 14 Dec 2020
      Replying to @FormerlyFormer @LibertyFarmNH and

      I’ve heard it said that “eye for an eye...” was not a call to vengeance (“be harsh!”), but rather a call to proportionality (“whoa! slow your roll!”). Humans are weird. Take an act that would turn most stomachs, but do it to a guy who “deserves” it. Now it’s something we ENJOY.

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    4. Prometheus 2.1‏ @wraithburn 14 Dec 2020
      Replying to @jordanthelawyer @FormerlyFormer and

      It's also important to read that chapter in context. Having read it recently with my wife, what most jumped out is that it is a specific call for _justice_. You can't avoid giving the appropriate punishment because of "extenuating circumstances."

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    5. Prometheus 2.1‏ @wraithburn 14 Dec 2020
      Replying to @wraithburn @jordanthelawyer and

      If a poor person beats and robs someone, you don't get to brush it off as "oh they needed it". You don't get to excuse people.

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    6. Jordan Lewis‏ @jordanthelawyer 14 Dec 2020
      Replying to @wraithburn @FormerlyFormer and

      Comparing ancient Jewish law to American law is tough. Remedies for any offense but murder were what we’d recognize as civil in nature—recompense. I’m entitled to be made whole. Period. Modern punishment is different. It’s because you offended the State. Now motive & mercy matter

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    7. KeepCalmAndDrawl‏ @FormerlyFormer 14 Dec 2020
      Replying to @jordanthelawyer @wraithburn and

      I’m of the mind that we could use more recompense in our justice system - though hard to implement. More good would likely come of having to mop the floors and stock the shelves of that quickie mart you stole from for 6 months, than 6 months in jail.

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    8. Jordan Lewis‏ @jordanthelawyer 14 Dec 2020
      Replying to @FormerlyFormer @wraithburn and

      Harder than it looks. People usually steal because they can’t afford to pay (or pay back). Also, this’d quickly become public subsidy of Walmart w/ free labor for their stores. (That’s how we got community svc, but it’s too disconnected from the offense to actually be impactful.)

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    9. KeepCalmAndDrawl‏ @FormerlyFormer 14 Dec 2020
      Replying to @jordanthelawyer @wraithburn and

      Yes - why I caveated with difficult to implement. At least on any large scale.

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    10. Jordan Lewis‏ @jordanthelawyer 14 Dec 2020
      Replying to @FormerlyFormer @wraithburn and

      I think we should be more open to doing it in cases where it’s appropriate (the Mom & Pop shoplifter you mentioned). But the only thing we can be sure of is that getting too granular in one place will lead to some as-yet-unknown horror elsewhere.

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      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 14 Dec 2020
      Replying to @jordanthelawyer @FormerlyFormer and

      the problem with restitution is incentives 1) heads the criminal wins, tails, they break even - incentivizes stealing 2) bc victim gets money, incentivizies false reports

      9:56 AM - 14 Dec 2020
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        2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 14 Dec 2020
          Replying to @MorlockP @jordanthelawyer and

          recommended: https://www.amazon.com/Legal-Systems-Very-Different-Ours/dp/1793386722 …

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        3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 14 Dec 2020
          Replying to @MorlockP @jordanthelawyer and

          also recommended: https://www.amazon.com/Laws-Order-What-Economics-Matters/dp/0691090092 …

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        2. KeepCalmAndDrawl‏ @FormerlyFormer 14 Dec 2020
          Replying to @MorlockP @jordanthelawyer and

          Deciding who is telling the truth is was perhaps easier in “everyone knows everyone” smaller communities. On the scale of the modern USA? Tough. Many things don’t scale well.

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        3. Jordan Lewis‏ @jordanthelawyer 14 Dec 2020
          Replying to @FormerlyFormer @MorlockP and

          YES! Not to blaspheme too hard, but I’m not convinced that Biblical guidance is all that helpful, for exactly this reason. They’re rules for an Iron-Age desert people, living in Dunbarian communities. Some concepts may still translate, but not all. And definitely not mechanics.

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