5/ What's the claim? What's the proposal? and ... I haven't yet found anyone who will explain it to me. This ties in w my earlier thread this morning re "yes, covid sucks, yes it's caused people to lose jobs and house equity...but what of it?" I have a theory >>>
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6/ Any my theory is that "as usual, people are terrible at saying what they mean". What's actually going on is that people are riddled with anxiety, either on their own behalf (white collar job lost) or on behalf of friends & relatives (mom still has to work at Dollar General)
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7/ ...and either they don't realize that it's this simple, or they do, but when they express it in those clear terms ("this sucks, man ... life is unfair"), the expression seems trite, or doesn't sufficiently identify a villain, which monkey tribal logic craves. So...
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8/ The true claim ("this sucks, man ... life is unfair") is reworked into an untrue claim ("there is no lockdown", "it's all an op", "the elites hate everyone want WANT to destroy their lives"). I suppose this is how normies talk, and I'm the one who's out of step bc autism.
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9/ Yep. And that's not entirely untrue, but ... what of it? People seem to put a lot more importance on this than a seeming recital of a fact would warrant. Which is my whole point here. "Yes...and?" People want to make this a moral issue.https://twitter.com/mr_archenemy/status/1328350944715804673 …
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10/ But the thing is, proper response to a pandemic is to reduce the number of human interactions. A 50% reduction creates some drop in the R, and dropping R is the entire goal. We could do it by saying "even last digit SSN? Stay home", or by saying "white collar? Stay home".
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11/ These two would work equally well, and would benefit everyone, in both groups. But (a) people want to make some moral claim, but (b) ... they can't / won't actually spell out what it is.
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12/ yep ... but even then ... what of it? Even this steelman doesn't quite SAY anything. What now? Should they stop proposing lockdowns? Should we rise up and call them bad people? What's the desired goal here?https://twitter.com/kendrictonn/status/1328352812892377089 …
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13/ This is a coherent point, and I continue to not have an opinion on the ROI effectiveness of lockdowns, but ... this, being a nuanced policy argument is NOT what I'm discussing in this thread.
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14/ OK, now THIS is the first stab at it that makes sense. "Lockdowns are unfair bc you put COSTS on blue collar people (work, chance of getting sick), but remove BENEFITS (relaxation, socialization)." OK, interesting. ...but now what? What's step 2?https://twitter.com/kendrictonn/status/1328353643926523907 …
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Kendric Tonn @kendrictonnReplying to @kendrictonn @MorlockPWith probably a side of "You are arguing I can't risk doing anything I enjoy, but (implicitly) that I should take on risks to make your lifestyle possible, so either stop sneering at me for going to the bar, or take the risk of buying your own groceries"?3 replies 2 retweets 11 likesShow this thread
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16/ Right. I ENTIRELY agree that the prog elites are absolute hypocrites. This thread is not defending them, not defending lockdown-for-Thanksgiving-but-not-for-BLM. This thread is asking "what does X mean / hope to achieve?".https://twitter.com/scareduck/status/1328354469877309440 …
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Rob McMillin 🇺🇦 @scareduckReplying to @scareduck @PereGrimmer @MorlockPThe biggest among these is the “large outdoor gatherings are okay if you’re protesting the death of George Floyd” exception. We also saw this with Democrats insisting on holding their traditional indoor banquet for new Representatives.5 replies 0 retweets 14 likesShow this thread -
17/ OK, guys, I'm getting a ton of people who are going off topic and telling me that progs are bad, that lockdowns are bad, etc. And ... fine. I agree with the first and have no opinion on the second. I'm trying to understand one PARTICULAR RHETORICAL POINT, that's it.
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