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    1. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 16 Nov 2020

      1/ There's a growing...I don't want to call it "point of view", bc it doesn't actually seem to have a coherent PoV or argument, but a growing...tone? I see in some places: "the lockdown is fake bc white collar people stay home but blue collar people work in trucks & stores"

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    2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 16 Nov 2020

      2/ Let me say right up front, yep, this certainly hits people unequally. The lockdown is quite easy for white collar folks who kept their jobs, stay home, get food etc delivered and it's much harder for blue collar people who have to do their same old jobs, wearing a !@# mask

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    3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 16 Nov 2020

      3/ Granted. However...

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      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 16 Nov 2020

      4/ This is an observation. It's not a moral claim, it's not an argument, it's not ... it's not really much of anything, really. And yet it's being made out to be ... something. I've asked a few people what exactly they mean when they say this. What's the moral valence?

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        2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 16 Nov 2020

          5/ What's the claim? What's the proposal? and ... I haven't yet found anyone who will explain it to me. This ties in w my earlier thread this morning re "yes, covid sucks, yes it's caused people to lose jobs and house equity...but what of it?" I have a theory >>>

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        3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 16 Nov 2020

          6/ Any my theory is that "as usual, people are terrible at saying what they mean". What's actually going on is that people are riddled with anxiety, either on their own behalf (white collar job lost) or on behalf of friends & relatives (mom still has to work at Dollar General)

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        4. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 16 Nov 2020

          7/ ...and either they don't realize that it's this simple, or they do, but when they express it in those clear terms ("this sucks, man ... life is unfair"), the expression seems trite, or doesn't sufficiently identify a villain, which monkey tribal logic craves. So...

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        5. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 16 Nov 2020

          8/ The true claim ("this sucks, man ... life is unfair") is reworked into an untrue claim ("there is no lockdown", "it's all an op", "the elites hate everyone want WANT to destroy their lives"). I suppose this is how normies talk, and I'm the one who's out of step bc autism.

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        6. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 16 Nov 2020

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted silicon age tulpa

          9/ Yep. And that's not entirely untrue, but ... what of it? People seem to put a lot more importance on this than a seeming recital of a fact would warrant. Which is my whole point here. "Yes...and?" People want to make this a moral issue.https://twitter.com/mr_archenemy/status/1328350944715804673 …

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          silicon age tulpa @mr_archenemy
          Replying to @MorlockP
          yeah, i've seen it described as "white collar people are hiding and blue collar people are bringing them stuff"
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        7. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 16 Nov 2020

          10/ But the thing is, proper response to a pandemic is to reduce the number of human interactions. A 50% reduction creates some drop in the R, and dropping R is the entire goal. We could do it by saying "even last digit SSN? Stay home", or by saying "white collar? Stay home".

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        8. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 16 Nov 2020

          11/ These two would work equally well, and would benefit everyone, in both groups. But (a) people want to make some moral claim, but (b) ... they can't / won't actually spell out what it is.

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        9. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 16 Nov 2020

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Kendric Tonn

          12/ yep ... but even then ... what of it? Even this steelman doesn't quite SAY anything. What now? Should they stop proposing lockdowns? Should we rise up and call them bad people? What's the desired goal here?https://twitter.com/kendrictonn/status/1328352812892377089 …

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          Kendric Tonn @kendrictonn
          Replying to @MorlockP
          I think the steelman version is maybe something like "A vocal minority presents total lockdown as a universal moral imperative, but their ability to preen over complying with that imperative is predicated on most people not being locked down."
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        10. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 16 Nov 2020

          13/ This is a coherent point, and I continue to not have an opinion on the ROI effectiveness of lockdowns, but ... this, being a nuanced policy argument is NOT what I'm discussing in this thread.

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        11. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 16 Nov 2020

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Kendric Tonn

          14/ OK, now THIS is the first stab at it that makes sense. "Lockdowns are unfair bc you put COSTS on blue collar people (work, chance of getting sick), but remove BENEFITS (relaxation, socialization)." OK, interesting. ...but now what? What's step 2?https://twitter.com/kendrictonn/status/1328353643926523907 …

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          Kendric Tonn @kendrictonn
          Replying to @kendrictonn @MorlockP
          With probably a side of "You are arguing I can't risk doing anything I enjoy, but (implicitly) that I should take on risks to make your lifestyle possible, so either stop sneering at me for going to the bar, or take the risk of buying your own groceries"?
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        12. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 16 Nov 2020

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted [Ten] days of Christmas

          15/ interestinghttps://twitter.com/NinePlusOne2/status/1328354424931160064 …

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          [Ten] days of Christmas @NinePlusOne2
          Replying to @MorlockP
          It's just an effort at reframing. Most people are so inundated with a flood of "lockouts are inherently moral and above dispute" that they don't have the ground to argue back from yet. You are correct that this is not an argument, it's groundwork.
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        13. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 16 Nov 2020

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Rob McMillin  🇺🇦

          16/ Right. I ENTIRELY agree that the prog elites are absolute hypocrites. This thread is not defending them, not defending lockdown-for-Thanksgiving-but-not-for-BLM. This thread is asking "what does X mean / hope to achieve?".https://twitter.com/scareduck/status/1328354469877309440 …

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          Rob McMillin  🇺🇦 @scareduck
          Replying to @scareduck @PereGrimmer @MorlockP
          The biggest among these is the “large outdoor gatherings are okay if you’re protesting the death of George Floyd” exception. We also saw this with Democrats insisting on holding their traditional indoor banquet for new Representatives.
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        14. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 16 Nov 2020

          17/ OK, guys, I'm getting a ton of people who are going off topic and telling me that progs are bad, that lockdowns are bad, etc. And ... fine. I agree with the first and have no opinion on the second. I'm trying to understand one PARTICULAR RHETORICAL POINT, that's it.

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