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    1. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 10 Nov 2020

      Patrick McKenzie Retweeted Josh Pigford

      The PE market around firms at about this size is getting very, very interesting, and I think increasingly you’re going to see founders build companies engineered to achieve a similar outcome, with a capital stack to match.https://twitter.com/Shpigford/status/1326153473956716544 …

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      Josh PigfordVerified account @Shpigford
      I sold @Baremetrics! After 7 years of work building this little company, Baremetrics has a new home. See the numbers, how we got here, what's changing (and what's not), what's next and more! https://baremetrics.com/blog/i-sold-baremetrics …
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    2. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 10 Nov 2020

      It would be tough to justify for tier 1 VCs or PMs at Google but if you were a product-savvy engineer living in, without loss of generality, St. Louis, how does $4M in equity after taking a reasonable salary for 5-7 years sound? Sounds pretty good, I think.

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    3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 10 Nov 2020
      Replying to @patio11

      I'm quite curious about why the seed investors walked away from $800k, when the purchase prices was $4M. Is that something you can explain (in the general case, if not in this specific case)? Thx.

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    4. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 10 Nov 2020
      Replying to @MorlockP

      Speaking generally, VC is investing in the expectation of hitting "home runs." Companies which do not end up achieving that trajectory affect returns minimally. One might choose to balance return of the original capital with the impact on your firm's brand w/ founders.

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    5. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 10 Nov 2020
      Replying to @patio11 @MorlockP

      The conversation might go: "You took a shot. It didn't pan out. Such is the nature of the venture business. We don't want to block what would be a good outcome for you and the team, so we will give you what is effectively a gift and get out of your way to achieve win for team."

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    6. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 10 Nov 2020
      Replying to @patio11 @MorlockP

      "To *my* investors, I'd explain: what are my other options here? I squeeze and founder grinds for few years, changing nothing fundamentally? Or quits and business folds? No thanks. Flameouts are part of the game; this no worse. We'll mark this as a zero and move on with life."

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      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 10 Nov 2020
      Replying to @patio11

      sure, and I'm decently convinced this is how it works, but I'm still asking: if I'm the VC and you call me up saying "I'm either gonna sell or shut down", I say "ok, I understand ...but since you're pocketing $4M, why not pocket $3.2M and pay me back my $0.8M"

      7:44 AM - 10 Nov 2020
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        1. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 10 Nov 2020
          Replying to @MorlockP @patio11

          I mean ... there's a cap table, right? There are stock holders. So if the VCs hold 20% of the stock, isn't the DEFAULT that they take 20% of the purchase price?

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        2. Patrick McKenzie‏ @patio11 10 Nov 2020
          Replying to @MorlockP

          A VC is entitled to ask for what they're owed under the contract, much like any business is entitled to ask for what it is owed under contracts, but businesses waive things in the interest of other business goals (like preserving relationships, branding, etc) all the time, right.

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        3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 10 Nov 2020
          Replying to @patio11

          ok, got it I was assuming that was it, but just wanted to have it spelled out that "yes, there's a cap table, yes, they're ENTITLED to get back the $800k, but they're choosing to purchase goodwill".

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