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    1. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Oct 2020

      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Shea Levy

      1/ Good calm thread from a New (?) Atheist. Replies in this thread. >>>https://twitter.com/shlevy/status/1315608870191071232 …

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      Shea Levy @shlevy
      First, a clarifying preface: Many people reserve moral judgment, especially negative moral judgment, for more extreme cases, often those demanding serious action in response. I'm much more finer-grained, so recognize when I call something bad or good it could be quite marginal.
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    2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Oct 2020

      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Shea Levy

      2/ First, I'm always befuddled by normative claims by those who actively argue against metaphysical reality. If the universe is just atoms and energy, how can there be any "should"? Why "should" ideas, even if false, be countered or criticized? Why?https://twitter.com/shlevy/status/1315608874158903296 …

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      Shea Levy @shlevy
      "[New atheists] advocate the view that superstition, religion and irrationalism should not simply be tolerated but should be countered, criticized, and exposed by rational argument wherever their influence arises in government, education, and politics."
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    3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Oct 2020

      3/ If the universe is merely atoms, there is no "spirits of rationality", there is no "sense of advancement", there is no "moral obligation". NB I'm not saying "without God there is no morality". I'm saying that if there's NOTHING beyond the material, not God, not The Good etc

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    4. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Oct 2020

      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Shea Levy

      4/ Religion is one class of non material claim among many. "Thou shalt have no other Gods beside me" is a non material / moral claim just like "All men have rights" is. "should" atheists attack that second claim w the same strength they attack the 1st?https://twitter.com/shlevy/status/1315608874158903296 …

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      Shea Levy @shlevy
      "[New atheists] advocate the view that superstition, religion and irrationalism should not simply be tolerated but should be countered, criticized, and exposed by rational argument wherever their influence arises in government, education, and politics."
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    5. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Oct 2020

      5/ > superstition, religion and irrationalism should not simply be tolerated but should be countered, criticized, and exposed by rational argument wherever their influence arises in government, education, and politics. The very concept of "rights" is obviously irrational.

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    6. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Oct 2020

      6/ Rights, like the soul, can not be weighed, do not scatter electrons, have no color, can not be displayed on an oscilloscope. When a person dies, the corpse does not get lighter as the soul departs >>>

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    7. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Oct 2020

      7/ Likewise, when a person dies and becomes a bag of meat, the corpse does not get lighter as the rights depart. Q.E.D. "rights" do not exist. If I CAN capture an African as a slave I MAY because Science™ has proven that he has no rights.

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    8. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Oct 2020

      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Shea Levy

      8/ Religious ideas include "rights". How many atheists spend as much time attacking the concept of human rights as they spend attacking concepts of souls, God, and free will? Zero.https://twitter.com/shlevy/status/1315608880961990656 …

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      Shea Levy @shlevy
      2. Religious belief and practice are based on ideas that are false, methods of knowledge that are unsound, values that are evil.
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    9. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Oct 2020

      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Shea Levy

      9/ > from every point (including the present), there was a real path open that was both more secular *and* could be... expected to lead to a better life (a) citation needed (b) define "better". And do so only using concepts that can be measured in a labhttps://twitter.com/shlevy/status/1315608885143666693 …

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      Shea Levy @shlevy
      3 a. In particular, there are religious people who have very good lives. It's absurd to say they necessarily would've been as good if they hadn't been religious. But from every point (including the present), there was a real path open that was both more secular *and* could be...
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    10. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Oct 2020

      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Shea Levy

      10/ Apparently subject experience is considered a word game. Very well. How, then, can we claim that lives (secularly lived) can be "better"? Measured how? Subjective experience is right out, but this argument.https://twitter.com/shlevy/status/1315608889128366095 …

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      Shea Levy @shlevy
      4. You can't get around this by playing word games, whether the mild "I just feel myself to be part of Something Bigger" or "everything is a kind of faith" or the more esoteric stuff like https://twitter.com/jmrphy/status/1312830109250805760 … or https://twitter.com/sonyasupposedly/status/1315021900687368192 …. The above all still applies.
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      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Oct 2020

      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Shea Levy

      11/ I think it was a good and honest attempt to engage - thank you! ...but I think the entire thread, like atheism (nor or old) is deeply flawed and incoherent.https://twitter.com/shlevy/status/1315608895050731521 …

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      Shea Levy @shlevy
      Anyway, I hope this answers @MorlockP's question about what I agree with them on. Which brings us to @servomancer's point: No, this is not enough. A negative identification, no matter how useful, is not sufficient for a worldview.
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        1. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Oct 2020

          12/ As always, I suggest that agnosticism is the only RATIONAL worldview. Atheism, like theism, is a positive claim to know the unknowable. At least theism acknowledges that the leap from the measurable to the unprovable is one of faith. Atheism hides and denies that step.

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