1/ Good calm thread from a New (?) Atheist. Replies in this thread. >>>https://twitter.com/shlevy/status/1315608870191071232 …
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3/ If the universe is merely atoms, there is no "spirits of rationality", there is no "sense of advancement", there is no "moral obligation". NB I'm not saying "without God there is no morality". I'm saying that if there's NOTHING beyond the material, not God, not The Good etc
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4/ Religion is one class of non material claim among many. "Thou shalt have no other Gods beside me" is a non material / moral claim just like "All men have rights" is. "should" atheists attack that second claim w the same strength they attack the 1st?https://twitter.com/shlevy/status/1315608874158903296 …
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5/ > superstition, religion and irrationalism should not simply be tolerated but should be countered, criticized, and exposed by rational argument wherever their influence arises in government, education, and politics. The very concept of "rights" is obviously irrational.
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6/ Rights, like the soul, can not be weighed, do not scatter electrons, have no color, can not be displayed on an oscilloscope. When a person dies, the corpse does not get lighter as the soul departs >>>
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7/ Likewise, when a person dies and becomes a bag of meat, the corpse does not get lighter as the rights depart. Q.E.D. "rights" do not exist. If I CAN capture an African as a slave I MAY because Science™ has proven that he has no rights.
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8/ Religious ideas include "rights". How many atheists spend as much time attacking the concept of human rights as they spend attacking concepts of souls, God, and free will? Zero.https://twitter.com/shlevy/status/1315608880961990656 …
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9/ > from every point (including the present), there was a real path open that was both more secular *and* could be... expected to lead to a better life (a) citation needed (b) define "better". And do so only using concepts that can be measured in a labhttps://twitter.com/shlevy/status/1315608885143666693 …
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10/ Apparently subject experience is considered a word game. Very well. How, then, can we claim that lives (secularly lived) can be "better"? Measured how? Subjective experience is right out, but this argument.https://twitter.com/shlevy/status/1315608889128366095 …
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11/ I think it was a good and honest attempt to engage - thank you! ...but I think the entire thread, like atheism (nor or old) is deeply flawed and incoherent.https://twitter.com/shlevy/status/1315608895050731521 …
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12/ As always, I suggest that agnosticism is the only RATIONAL worldview. Atheism, like theism, is a positive claim to know the unknowable. At least theism acknowledges that the leap from the measurable to the unprovable is one of faith. Atheism hides and denies that step.
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