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    1. Prince-philosopher Coinaday  🤴 🧐‏ @coinaday1 30 Sep 2020

      Prince-philosopher Coinaday  🤴 🧐 Retweeted Prince-philosopher Coinaday  🤴 🧐

      Okay, so, I think if I look at this just as a "down logs to saleable boards" problem overall, it's a matter of "select log type if possible; then get largest boards possible" for procedure. And try to go shorter side for length to fit sedan.https://twitter.com/coinaday1/status/1311363022733160454 …

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      Prince-philosopher Coinaday  🤴 🧐 @coinaday1
      I was idly curious about lumber prices from thinking about everything from "how much would this tree be worth?" to "What would something like this approximately cost?" and...now I'm teetering on a rabbit hole.
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    2. Prince-philosopher Coinaday  🤴 🧐‏ @coinaday1 30 Sep 2020

      So, for instance: 2x6 oak boards 4' long would be ideal for my likely setup.

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    3. Prince-philosopher Coinaday  🤴 🧐‏ @coinaday1 30 Sep 2020

      A shorter log / board would allow me to fit stacked into more areas in the sedan. Might be able to go 5' or 6' but these already cut out areas and longer going to be prohibitive in sedan. So would need more of a hobbyist outlet market. But this should be fine, because...

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    4. Prince-philosopher Coinaday  🤴 🧐‏ @coinaday1 30 Sep 2020

      At a small scale, seems like difficulty is roughly the same per type (go with me for a moment), and not any harder really to cut out boards vs cut into logs vs tree. But prices go up dramatically. So I think this is the key to make the small scale doable: 10x bf prices.

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    5. Prince-philosopher Coinaday  🤴 🧐‏ @coinaday1 30 Sep 2020

      Commodity lumber goes for <$1 per board foot (think of wooden tile 1 foot by 1 foot by one inch thick). Specialized boards go for >$10 per board foot. But length isn't driving cost overall: more height and width. So more squarish wood not losing $/size but easier to haul.

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    6. Prince-philosopher Coinaday  🤴 🧐‏ @coinaday1 30 Sep 2020

      Let's say you give good rates / discount to try to get business being a smaller supplier: so go for $1-$2 / board foot where >$10 by cut / type otherwise commercial. Still doing better than trying to sell commodity wood (and with nonstandard prices, etc) and getting less.

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    7. Prince-philosopher Coinaday  🤴 🧐‏ @coinaday1 30 Sep 2020

      Again, this is based on thinking of it as the volume being the overall cost. For trimming up virtually limitless downwood, this seems reasonable: transporting these sizes of boards over this distance shouldn't be hard, so just a matter of trimming up, basically size / volume.

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    8. Prince-philosopher Coinaday  🤴 🧐‏ @coinaday1 30 Sep 2020

      Consider a standard log to be 1 foot by 1 foot by 4 foot. That's 48 board feet, let's call it 50 board foot logs standard. So those are maybe $100 if selected out of one of the valuable woods (e.g. oak rather than pine).

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    9. Prince-philosopher Coinaday  🤴 🧐‏ @coinaday1 30 Sep 2020

      Also, being able to do custom cuts may be able to get higher board foot prices: perhaps someone wants 3 inch by 5 inch boards 3 foot long for some reason. Being willing to cut that might be worth a higher price but being handcraft no harder than 2 x 4 etc.

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      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 30 Sep 2020
      Replying to @coinaday1

      it's both fascinating and painful to watch you re-derive stuff from first principles !

      2:17 PM - 30 Sep 2020
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        2. Prince-philosopher Coinaday  🤴 🧐‏ @coinaday1 30 Sep 2020
          Replying to @MorlockP

          Ha! I appreciate that! FWIW, this is what my ~2 hours of idle musing on the subject brings. I just do this as a "before reading an initial primer" step rather than, Musklike, thinking I should now explain how to reinvent the wheel. 😀

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        3. Prince-philosopher Coinaday  🤴 🧐‏ @coinaday1 30 Sep 2020
          Replying to @coinaday1 @MorlockP

          But I definitely do tend to bring that "reconsider all fundamental premises of the field before doing 'Hello, World' " type of attitude towards it too. Like, operating out of a sedan not a typical start but fits my style and sees surprisingly doable.

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