3/ ignoring actual costs and trade offs, and LARPing ideals without considering costs. With the left, this is pictures of 22nd century green cities, with gardens spilling off of skyscrapers, huge windmills, and beautiful domes With right, villages, timber frame, & cobble stone
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4/ Both the left and the right ideal visions are beautiful. ...but they're in
@robinhanson style "far mode". There's no consideration in the left images to how much power those windmills actually generate, vs how much is required to run elevators etc. In the right >1 reply 2 retweets 38 likesShow this thread -
5/ there's hand-crafted timber frame, cobble stones, etc. I've done, with my own two hands, both timber frame construction with chisel and hammer, and platform framed construction with pneumatic nail gun. There's no comparison. Costs are SOOOOOO much higher w timberframe.
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6/ And, being in far mode, both pictures leave out tons of details. Anyway, it's just tiresome. It's that standard monkey thing of not even really making an argument, just staking out an aesthetic stance as tribal signalling.
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7/ 1) yes, to the point about homogeneity 2) but no to the point re Japan. Tokyo, for example, has a population density of 6,807 ppl/mi^2. It's less dense than Dallas, Detroit, Cleveland, etc. https://twitter.com/CloakedClaviger/status/1310238922325348352 …
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>Tokyo, for example, has a population density of 6,807 ppl/mi^2. It's less dense than Dallas ???pic.twitter.com/XbY3KKSX4W
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I made sure that the numbers I used both were in the same units. But, yes, there's apparently some bad data out there. Have closed the tabs, not going to reopen.
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I knew you had checked, but found the result so surprising that I had to check as well. "Population density" is subject to all kinds of ambiguities; being correct requires rigorous and careful statements. But loosely speaking, Tokyo is crazy dense, and Dallas isn't.
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also, a big deal is the definition of metro areas; IIRC, Japan has huge metro areas, so "Tokyo" includes borderline farm land incommensurable
things
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in the US, a guy kills his wife, his two kids, and himself, and that's three murders and one suicide, but in Japan, that's four counts of suicide ... bc different culture, and they don't even have the English word "suicide", but some Japanese words that is SIMILAR.
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