the utter tabooing of violence by the upper middle class is interesting and i bet unusual and i also suspect a major, major blind spot
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Replying to @eigenrobot
I haven't been in a fistfight in almost 8 years ; no longer know what class I am tfw
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Replying to @MorlockP
in this scheme probably lower middle people with extensive experience with firearms as a Pursuit are culturally are probably mostly lower middle cash and acumen and free time to get really good at it
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Replying to @eigenrobot
yes, think so - mostly having fun by education / profession / conscientiousness / etc, I am upper middle and every post-college peer has been entirely anti-violence, but I sort of like it and make a conscious decision for Heinleinian reasons to avoid blindspot & not shy away
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Replying to @MorlockP @eigenrobot
Where does studying martial arts put someone? Many of the people who pursue that tend to be of the same mindset or abilities as gun owners. They have free time and money to dedicate to the pursuit. I think the type of school you go to tells you a lot about it.
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Replying to @wraithburn @MorlockP
martial arts are tolerated like lifting weights is tolerated, slightly less so even you get side-eyed at least
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Replying to @eigenrobot @MorlockP
Interesting, as attending a fencing school which put you through an exercise regimen, taught hand to hand skills, rapier, rapier and dagger, rapier and buckler and so on was very much an upper class thing in Europe some time in the past.
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Replying to @wraithburn @eigenrobot
this is where the curve starts to bend upwards after the middle class; still is your boxing, tho, ugh, so prole
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Can confirm. My son and I both box competitively and our upper middle class friends switch between the surprised/offended/shocked “oh my god” look and “how sad/what a pity” look, when I talk about it.
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That's such a weird way of thinking to me because it's a moralistic judgement which I have no shared basis of culture to understand why they get there.
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none of those statements are MORAL claims
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The statements themselves no, but they are expressions of the person's disdain for a failure to live up to the "right behavior". I'm not sure what other word to use instead for that kind of thinking.
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