22/ OP, and her entire generation, are invested in this narrative that they've FINALLY overthrown the exclusionary old boys network that tried so hard to keep them out. ...but it's lies and nonsense. It never happened They cherry pick a few facts, like many authors were white
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23/ ...because OF COURSE THEY WERE, in a country that was mostly white. And most authors were male, because OF COURSE THEY WERE, in a genre descended from two-fisted-pulps and popular science magazines. And they take these facts and then assume "obviously there was exclusion".
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24/ Notice the jujitsu here: if you respect old authors for writing great stuff (Lovecraft) or old editors for building enthusiasm (Campbell) then you are RACIST and are driving people away. Your appreciation of the greats is an ACT OF VIOLENCE.https://twitter.com/aliettedb/status/1289655684263444482 …
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25/ More of the jujitsu here: she's turned this into an either / or, fallacy of the excluded middle. She declares, with zero evidence, that appreciating the dead means that you hate the living / current wave of SF authors and fans.https://twitter.com/aliettedb/status/1289656583220129792 …
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26/ In fact, these are orthogonal. You can like or dislike the past masters, and you can like or dislike the current generation. (In fact, I like the past masters and dislike the current authors, but the connection is not causal; it's two distinct opinions)
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27/ What part of it is false? My assertion that the current gatekeepers of SF are the major publishers of SF, and that they're left of center? Why do you think that that's false? https://twitter.com/shaunduke/status/1290410267394871296 …
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28/ I didn't IGNORE it. I QUOTED it. And then I asked you for clarification, with my two hunches as to what you were talking about. That question still stands. I am honestly curious what part of my tweet (#5, above, in this thread) you think is false https://twitter.com/shaunduke/status/1290411299625676800 …
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29/ Shecky likewise finds tweet #5 in this sequence false, or funny, or something.
@SheckyX , would you care to explain what part of tweet #5 you disagree with? https://twitter.com/SheckyX/status/1290411241043886081 …ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs added,
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30/ Also, kind of curious what
@shaunduke means by "that level of dishonesty". I quoted his tweet, which quoted mine. All the material is here, for anyone who wants to read it. Anyway, invite still open@shaunduke - what part of #5 do you disagree w? https://twitter.com/shaunduke/status/1290411299625676800 …ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs added,
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31/ I agree it's not rocket science. So ... what part of tweet #5 in this sequence do you think is false? That Tor, etc are left of center? Or something else? There were multiple claims in my tweet. https://twitter.com/shaunduke/status/1290412416141066245 …
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32/ I read my own tweet. I know what it says. The question I have asked you four times now is what part of it you disagree with. Care to answer? https://twitter.com/shaunduke/status/1290413907203493889 …
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33/ No one is discussing political parties. We're discussing cultural institutions like publishers.https://twitter.com/SFFAudio/status/1290414056310890496 …
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SFFaudio @SFFAudiohas to be the seconnd part since both wings of the one USA political party are right wing what most ppl call the "left" is actually 'right that enjoys rainbows' the regular right also tolerates rainbows this eagle don't fly https://twitter.com/MorlockP/status/1290410541782110213 …1 reply 0 retweets 1 likeShow this thread -
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34/ I asked him 4 times what he meant by "This is so absurdly false it renders the rest of the thread irrelevant.", and he never answered, but declared the question "dishonest". Puzzling. https://twitter.com/shaunduke/status/1290414873004908544 …
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