> I want them to be penniless. I don't. This is a very slippery slope.
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why do you want someone who has evil / wrong beliefs to be penniless ? srs question do you want them to have cancer? what's the difference?
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Replying to @MorlockP @sonyasupposedly
I anticipated this very point as soon as I typed it, and began composing a response (to myself). I think my answer is this: I am at war with Nazis; I want to destroy them by any means necessary. BUT. I am cautious in my choice of weapons, lest they be used against me someday. +
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So I promulgate a Geneva Convention, a Schelling point which I believe everyone who fancies themselves part of a liberal society might be able to support, even if they could gain an advantage for their own faction by breaking it. +
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Rules of warfare that we can all agree to destroy each other by fair and square. +
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Conceptually, I think there's something about /infrastructure/ - which certainly includes publishing, but maybe also includes things like access to a job market? I.e. take down the enemy but don't poison the waterways, because we all have to drink there. +
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Replying to @random_eddie @sonyasupposedly
I see two possible reasons to wish these penalties on bad thinkers: - to punish them, because it's fun and good to cause misery to bad people - to set incentives so that people don't a̶d̶o̶p̶t̶ admit these beliefs are there other reasons? which is yours?
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Replying to @MorlockP @sonyasupposedly
>which is yours Not punishment. A little (a lot?) of setting incentives. Some of erecting barriers to adopting the beliefs. Mostly, I think, to keep the holders of said beliefs far from me, as I don't wish to share a society with them.
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Replying to @random_eddie @sonyasupposedly
I tend to think that almost zero Nazis in 2020 truly hold Nazi ideology they mostly hold rage and incoherence I'm not sure long time horizon incentives have much effect on such ppl I also worry about creep, because we've ALREADY SEEN Curtis "renowned slavery apologist" Yarvin
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Replying to @MorlockP @sonyasupposedly
Assume every reference to "Nazi" in all of my tweets is about a hypothetical fictional group of people with truly vile sincerely-held beliefs, who bear no resemblance to any actual persons in the real world, living or dead Probably should have said "Birdwatchers" instead
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there's an interesting thing with punishments where you want to make it hard to defect into badness, but easy to defect back there is a reason dictators fly out of small countries with suitcases of cash and live life in Paris we intentionally make this easier than fighting
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Replying to @sonyasupposedly @MorlockP
>insofar as we cannot escape from living in a society you cannot stop me from trying
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