a) This is bad, but if this is what you believe then you should say it. b) This is bad, and you should not say it.
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Replying to @sonyasupposedly
The outcome is absolutely not the same either way. A liberal society should not bring social pressure to bear against people expressing their beliefs, no matter how repellent those beliefs may be.
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Replying to @sonyasupposedly
The world is flawed and right is impossible but we should never lose sight of what right *is*, nor cease striving towards it.
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Replying to @random_eddie @sonyasupposedly
Also, I suspect but could be wrong that this conversation is an example of what I mentioned earlier - there is a hard-to-express distinction between "What you said is bad" and "What you said should not be said". +
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Replying to @random_eddie @sonyasupposedly
I don't want there to be Nazis. Given that there are, I want to make the costs of being a Nazi very high (without violating the NAP). I want to bring social pressure against being a Nazi. I want to ostracize them. I want them to be penniless. ... for BEING Nazis. +
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Replying to @random_eddie @sonyasupposedly
> I want them to be penniless. I don't. This is a very slippery slope.
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why do you want someone who has evil / wrong beliefs to be penniless ? srs question do you want them to have cancer? what's the difference?
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well, one difference is that being penniless due to nazi beliefs is remediable, whereas cancer often is not.
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is it? one someone has been "cancelled" can they just say "I repent" and resume life? who runs this process? also, do we want coerced confessions and repentance ?
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1) ok 2) me and frank 3) never said we did
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didn't say you said we did was ASKING if you and/or Eddie want that ...because if you create a system, look to see what incentives that system generates
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