2/ you or your wife are jogging when three angry black men in an Escalade or three Hispanics in a pair of El Caminos chase you, cut you off, then jump out with guns drawn oh you got shot and killed? Well, shouldn't have started a fight with them! They were just asking questions
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Replying to @MorlockP
That is a disingenuous comparison. I don't burgle places and whites are much more likely to be the recipients of violence from minorities than vice versa.pic.twitter.com/1yo2VdpNIo
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Replying to @western_bester @MorlockP
So what? The racial statistics alter the law in this case?
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Replying to @FlorbFnarb @MorlockP
I was responding to his hypothetical scenario of 3 armed blacks jumping out of a vehicle at white joggers. I pointed out that is a disingenuous comparison because the rates of interracial violence between whites and blacks are so extremely disproportionate.
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Replying to @western_bester @FlorbFnarb
I agree with the rate information, but when you've got armed X, for any X, chasing someone and jumping out of a truck, you are no longer dealing with the base group, but with a self-selected sub sample
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Replying to @MorlockP @FlorbFnarb
I don't think the guys in the truck wanted it to go down like it did. I would encourage anyone saying they'd also charge at guys with guns to not do that if they get in the same scenario. If Ahmaud hadn't charged them, trying to rip the shotgun away he'd probably still be alive.
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Replying to @western_bester @MorlockP
Maybe, but that doesn’t change the legal facts of the case. Also I agree that the men no doubt didn’t set out with killing in mind, which is why I say they’re guilty of manslaughter and not murder. The killing was intentional but not, as far as we know, premeditated.
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Replying to @FlorbFnarb @MorlockP
Felony murder. They had no legal cause to detain him under duress; unlawful arrest/imprisonment (a felony). They committed a felony, during which someone died; felony murder.
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That would mean every manslaughter gets changed to felony murder. Seems not to be the intended purpose of the felony murder statute, but then again IANAL.
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Replying to @FlorbFnarb @MorlockP
Manslaughter: did something legal/misdemeanor, which reasonably could cause harm, and someone died.
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Replying to @MorlockP @FlorbFnarb
Was felony, so felony murder. That said, felony murder may be prosecuted under misdemeanor. Exact wording of applicable law applies. Just relating the basic concepts.
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