One thing that's dismaying about some people's reaction to the Ahmaud Arbery case is that when they consider it, they only put themselves in the role of the vigilantes. "Well, if he'd just listened and stopped..." Why not ALSO put yourself in the role of the jogger?
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@GepppySB video shows Arbery walking (not jogging) up to the house. Neighbor...sees him. After Arbery notices, he runs away as if fleeing. Two 911 calls were made, so shooters weren’t the only ones suspicious. I’m not defending shooters though! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9PSZKaW6xo&app=desktop …Show this thread -
10/ I think the problem in the analysis is that there are two axises: * was he out jogging or was he ne'er do well * were a bunch of randos justified in forming a vigilante posse, pointing a gun at him, and pulling the trigger the entire legal question is the second one >
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11/ if he was a pure jogger, they randos had no right to intercept him or point a gun at him IF HE WAS A THIEF, THIS IS STILL TRUE
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12/ but folks want to wish away this complexity and * turn two distinct questions (was he breaking the law? were they?) into 1 (was he a thief?) * use the result of "was he a thief?" to justify anything / everything
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maybe if it's one guy. but in this scenario even if you disarm the first guy, the second guy in the back of the truck has the drop on you and will fire if you disarmed his partner. it's extremely unlikely this strategy ends well for you
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Boy..I dont know if I'd try to bat the gun away..I'd probably try to call 911 myself...and try not to get shot doing it
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This is where I have trouble understanding folks. First you admit Max is correct- & you're writing an actual manual to help people survive; to give better odds at life. A boss move is betting the house on red? Flip the finger keep running force them to shoot you in the back.
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