37/ ...lest it cast shadow on the adjacent stalls. Guys, ROMAN CITIES has zoning laws, specifying maximum heights, limitations on use, etc. If you object to zoning setbacks as a 20th century prog innovation ... you're not nearly as "trad" as you think you are.
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ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted BrittleBear
38/ A fine question, but regrettably I have no good answer. I've picked up a smattering of knowledge of the history of property rights by reading David Friedman (always recommended), Roman history, medieval history, and lots of wiki bits.https://twitter.com/BrtlBearFeBull/status/1257323956056424454 …
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ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Prometheus 2.1
39/ Strong agree. Absolute-ish property rights are modern Anglo-American. Medieval property norms exist in the medieval setting. Native American norms exist in the pre-Columbian setting. I strongly prefer Anglo-American norms but they aren't natural.https://twitter.com/wraithburn/status/1257332997268869123 …
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Prometheus 2.1 @wraithburnReplying to @MorlockPNot only that, but expectations of land rights are very tightly wound to cultural expectations as well. Anthropologists know this well, as they see those differences all the time. You can't just slap on different land rules without changing a culture.2 replies 0 retweets 9 likesShow this thread -
40/ This is a mistake baby libertarians make all the time. They take an already-simplified history of a thing, simplify it further, deduce a Platonic Form, and then assert that that Form is (a) real, (b) the ONLY real option. Property is to some degree a social construct.
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41/ In the end, force / power is real. Property is a set of norms that decrease the need to actively use force. Decreasing actual use of force is good, because violence destroys utility.
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ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Eddie, Son of Richard
42/ Yes. I like to look at things through an information technology lens. Labor levees, taxes based on arable land - all of these are good technology when computation and record keeping are expensive.https://twitter.com/random_eddie/status/1257333384096948226 …
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Eddie, Son of Richard @random_eddieReplying to @MorlockPThe ancients weren't dumb Not even the prehistorics were dumb They all created complex relationships and rules which today we would label "economic" and "legal"; they were created because they were useful and they endured and were refined because they were productive.1 reply 0 retweets 6 likesShow this thread -
43/ On those rare occasions when I get optimistic about the future of individual liberty, it is because technological improvements make it easier and cheaper measure use and to charge people by use, not by headcount or income or land.
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44/ now I'm in that position where I argued for X, someone enthusiastically agreed with me re X, and now I feel dirty and need to somehow find a caveat so that I can pick a fight to ensure that I don't have any allies on this pointhttps://twitter.com/wraithburn/status/1257333895630147585 …
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Prometheus 2.1 @wraithburnReplying to @MorlockPExactly! It frustrates me that people assume property rights are natural rights. They can't be, they don't attach to a person. The concept of property is defined by _Society_ and only makes sense within the social space. Any property rights must dwell within the social sphere.4 replies 3 retweets 24 likesShow this thread -
ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Todd Barrett
45/ Yes. I was already thinking of property rights and making an analogy to Robert Nozick's argument in Anarchy State and Utopia, and this thread crystallizes it.https://twitter.com/thepiclord/status/1257345406503092228 …
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Todd Barrett @thepiclordReplying to @MorlockPI've found a workable model is to assume that EVEN if we all land was originally homesteaded such that each person had absolute ownership rights, they would eventually *contract* away those rights simply for convenience' sake and said contracts would tend to run with the *land.*2 replies 0 retweets 9 likesShow this thread -
46/ very well said people trade things, and that makes clean, tidy, top-down "seeing like a state and/or autist" models untenable
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47/ he's not wronghttps://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/1257351820369944577 …
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48/ I'm guessing that there aren't a ton of updates
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As a lawyer I “might” refine it into hate with yelling as the expression but you’re not wrong...
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