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    1. AQ‏ @Evollaqi 2 May 2020

      AQ Retweeted ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs

      Interesting thread propounding a more nuanced - though I leave it open whether more correct - libertarian understanding of property rights than we commonly hear from libertarianshttps://twitter.com/MorlockP/status/1256599859060264960 …

      AQ added,

      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs @MorlockP
      it's a nice spring day ... so of course my neighbor is out violating the cease and desist order and doing more construction on his illegal 4,800 ft^2 steel industrial building 18' from the property line while the lawsuit against the town is still pending. "Extraordinary." pic.twitter.com/MmIQUvfgJP
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    2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 2 May 2020
      Replying to @Evollaqi

      TY!

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    3. AQ‏ @Evollaqi 3 May 2020
      Replying to @MorlockP

      If I were to play devil's advocate, I'd say that libertarians aren't defending the common law of land (and its statutory outgrowths), but advocating a society where a freehold gives you unqualified right over that land, such that a person's freehold is their castle

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    4. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 3 May 2020
      Replying to @Evollaqi

      That's all reasonable. But libertarianism has to start w property rights as they exist, even though imperfect, right? No Year Zero where we divide all property by 7 billion people? So if we accept that X owns land Y, shouldn't we also accept that X doesn't own mineral rights Z?

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    5. AQ‏ @Evollaqi 3 May 2020
      Replying to @MorlockP

      I think that's fair. Just to further devil though, what would the situation be if I bought a freehold unencumbered by any planning legislation, and then some time afterwards a law comes in prohibiting me from building up to my border - would such a law be legitimate?

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    6. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 3 May 2020
      Replying to @Evollaqi

      Not according to MY ethics. However, game theory says that it makes sense to proceed as if bullshit laws are "valid", because the alternative is defiance, repression, police, and death.

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    7. AQ‏ @Evollaqi 3 May 2020
      Replying to @MorlockP

      There's a difference between regarding a law as valid, and thinking you should exercise your rights under it. I agree that we should also follow unjust laws where disobeying the legal system as a whole would likely lead to a worse outcome than obeying it, but if it gives me a

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    8. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 3 May 2020
      Replying to @Evollaqi

      My PoV is that exchanges of rights from bundle to bundle happened decades before I showed up. I specifically researched this EXACT issue before putting in a bid on property P. P included { A, B, C, D, E} The price reflected that. Price for { A, B, C } would be less I bought A...E

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    9. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 3 May 2020
      Replying to @MorlockP @Evollaqi

      And the neighbor bought Q, R, S, T. Not E. So now he's trying to steal E from me. I paid for it he didn't. /shrug

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    10. AQ‏ @Evollaqi 3 May 2020
      Replying to @MorlockP

      Yeah, I'm sure this issue doesn't arise in your own personal case! I just meant in circumstances other than your own, where this issue arises, I was wondering whether the right ought to be exercised. I don't think there's a clear answer!

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      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 3 May 2020
      Replying to @Evollaqi

      this ties into a bigger question - do property rights dissolve over time? If something was stolen from an ancestor of mine 500 years ago, which I would have inherited perhaps 0.1% of, do I have some residual claim on that today? Versus who? Someone who bought it last week >

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        2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 3 May 2020
          Replying to @MorlockP @Evollaqi

          from a guy who bought it from a buy who bought it...etc...with a good claim of title back 499.9 years? I think that at some point it becomes not just "pragmatic but immoral" but indeed "pragmatic AND moral" to treat possession as valid

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        3. AQ‏ @Evollaqi 3 May 2020
          Replying to @MorlockP

          I think that's a really good argument. I guess the counter argument is where we've dispossessed one group of people from a land, which they're now effectively excluded from getting back. Eg Native Americans weren't just dispossessed, their dispossession in effect left them

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