3/ I am not in favor of zoning laws, at least not enacted top-down by governments. However, they do exist. Property exists as an enforceable right bc government exists. Sure, sure, in a David Friedman "Machinery of Freedom" society we have competing legal service providers >
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14/ I'm not asking for sympathy. I don't care about other people's emotions. I'm entertaining my followers by relaying a Greek tragedy, because it's fun for me...and for them.https://twitter.com/Gairnok/status/1256618534358171653?s=19 …
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15/ Yep. And more precisely, code enforcers must follow the law and not take it upon themselves to re facto do a backdoor "taking" to help out an old high school buddy.https://twitter.com/ctdonath/status/1256619539460210689?s=19 …
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16/ You are unfamiliar w NH law. Completion is not a cause for a variance & is explicitly listed as a NON cause. There is a 5 point test that variances are tested against, and they must hit every prong. This inevitable variance request likely fails 3 of 5https://twitter.com/ArthurFrDent/status/1256620067577450501?s=19 …
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17/ Indeed, code is not law. But law explains that code is created by voters of the town, and demands - with the force of law - that it be enforced, via certain processes and mechanism. In NH that law is RSA 672 - 679 http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/nhtoc/nhtoc-lxiv.htm … https://twitter.com/KekistanAntifa1/status/1256637984692150274?s=19 …
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18/ Sure. But "nuisance" and "diminished property values" are damage. This is obvious to anyone who has spent even 5 minutes reading on this topic. https://twitter.com/KekistanAntifa1/status/1256638283364384770?s=19 …
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19/ Say what you will about popehat, but I understand his frustration with people who went to Internet Law School. https://twitter.com/KekistanAntifa1/status/1256639974692323329?s=19 …
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20/ My guess is that the steel building does about $40,000 of damage to my property value, but I could be low. Curb appeal matters a ton. https://twitter.com/ollybot_browne/status/1256644192459202562?s=19 …
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21/ I have no evidence that zoning laws have been held unconstitutional. Maybe this is not the opinion of Dave's Sandwich Shack, Truck Rental, and Legal Opinions, but that's ok. https://twitter.com/KekistanAntifa1/status/1256644411305463808?s=19 …
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22/ Gosh, if only if tried that! Like, six times. Guy screamed F bombs at me for 10 minutes when I went over. https://twitter.com/KekistanAntifa1/status/1256645176740716545?s=19 …
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24/ It takes work to have this poor a reading comprehension, but some do manage it. https://twitter.com/JamesWatson210/status/1256647777888751616?s=19 …
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25/ If "purchasing rights" is nonsense, how does one acquire property rights for a specific property? Before purchase of X, no rights re X. After purchasing X, some or all rights re X. This is basic stuff. https://twitter.com/KekistanAntifa1/status/1256639974692323329?s=19 …
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26/ I used to believe strongly in natural rights re property, and I got very angry at non / anti natural rights arguments, e.g. David Friedman. Anger is often a clue. Did native Americans own land, in a way that we recognize, before 1492?
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27/ thoughts on property rights continue... it's kind of interesting that a lot of objection to my nuanced "property is a bundle of rights, and those rights can be traded and sold off, and often are" stance is from sort of trad-cons who want to get back to TRADITIONAL property
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28/ The objection is often formulated No, Morlock, a homestead / land is sacrosanct, and a man should own ALL of the rights to his land, and this modern governmental meddling this peels away "right to build in the 20 boundary" and takes it away from a man is WRONG and unnatural
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29/ It offends the same kind of people who get itchy re fiat currency or the "time debt transformation" where - as the objection says - banks pretend that money loaned out for 20 years is still usable now.
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30/ On a tangent, this allergy to complexity is a thing, where people can't abstract away from the concrete to truly understand things. As they say in coding: there are two types of people: those who understand pointers and those who can't.
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31/ ...but getting back to the core thing of "full and complete rights to land is the natural and normal and correct way to own land": no, that's not actually traditionally how land has EVER worked. That's a false retro-history. Land has ALWAYS been complicated.
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32/ Perhaps never more complicated than in Medieval Europe. It was exceedingly rare for a man to own 20 acres, everything on those 20 acres, and nothing off those 20 acres. Instead, the norm was overlapping sets of claims. One family's land might include:
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33/ - These 20 acres - and also a seasonal right to pick berries on the adjacent 5 acres ... but not more than 1 bushel per member of family - one share in the fish harvested from the stream - firewood from the adjacent forest, but only 1 cord per year
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34/ ...but the right to the 20 acres is complicated by the fact that of every 20 bushels of wheat harvested from it, 2 bushels must go to support the local convent, and 1 bushel to the poor house
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35/ ...and speaking of the poor, the widows of the town have the right to glean the fields after harvest, so while I can grow wheat on my land, and harvest it, I can't do TOO GOOD A JOB at harvesting it
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36/ Also, as the land fronts the road, there is a levy where 5 days of labor per year must be spent maintaining the road. Additionally, attached to the land is the right to have a market stall thrive per year in the local village...but the stall can't be more than 10' tall
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37/ ...lest it cast shadow on the adjacent stalls. Guys, ROMAN CITIES has zoning laws, specifying maximum heights, limitations on use, etc. If you object to zoning setbacks as a 20th century prog innovation ... you're not nearly as "trad" as you think you are.
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39/ sure, sure, you can have an ideal where all rights are bundled together and not unbundled ... but that implicitly depends on either people choosing the way you want them to, or forbidding trade. Which is bad. Trade increases utility.
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