4/ or you could move out there now, and get a job back in the city, and commute 30 or 60 or 90 minutes each direction, twice a day. ...but all in all, I think it makes a lot more sense to stay in the city or burbs for now, and get a job, and earn some money.
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15/ when you start to enact your plan, they won't respond with "WHERE DID THIS COME FROM !??!" but instead with "ah, great, Frank is finally acting on his dream!" Most people are supportive, if they're friends or family. But use marketing techniques and help frame it for them
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16/ you can forward an article from the WSJ on how there's a new young white collar back-to-the-land movement or tell mom and dad about this thing you read in the NYT about professionals doing artisinal high quality food they don't have any real opinion yet, I bet help form it
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18/ I don't have any specific link, but I've read this article a half dozen times at a variety of outlets.https://twitter.com/NotWesleyWelker/status/1254846881949200386 …
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19/ "these two quirky white collar professionals gave up the rate race - he, a marketing execute, she a high powered trader at XYZ bank - for a more authentic lifestyle raising goats and selling their own artisinal goat cheese at farmers markets" this article runs over and over
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20/ re meeting people and dating:https://twitter.com/JASutherlandBks/status/1254846813166882816 …
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21/ also, I believe that there's a dating website for rural folks http://farmersonly.com no idea what the selection is like, though
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22/ hey, dude, my pleasure also, if you've got all that - wife, house, kids- you're doing GREAThttps://twitter.com/Face_Almighty44/status/1254847981162987521 …
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23/ Can't emphasize enough the capital accumulation aspect. Homesteading is capital intensive. Farming - if you're born into it, have the land already, learned the skills at dad's knee - is a cut throat low margin enterprise. You are a "price taker" not a "price setter".
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24/ and you are competing with people who have a lot of skill eeking out a living with marginal equipment, and with all the advantages of a local friend network, local reputation, local market knowledge. You can't move out here and, I dunno, start logging in competition w real
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25/ ...loggers, and hope to use the profits ("profits") from that to bootstrap the homestead. Likewise raising corn, raising beef, etc I'm not saying that you can't get some cash flow from those activities, but that's after they're up and running with a heavy capital injection
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26/ ...and that cash flow is more going to subsidize your money-losing lifestyle (which you adopt for reasons like anti-fragility / prepping, creating a lifestyle for your children, etc.) than it is going to be a positive income stream.
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27/ So, again, my advice: establish your career in the city or burbs. Become a coder. Become an electrician. A graphic designer. A welder. THEN move that career to the country, and either work remotely, or ply your trade, if it's a TRADE trade (e.g. welding, etc) locally
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28/ OK, I've answered all the questions that OP threw at me via DM. Any other questions before I wrap up the thread and get back to writing my
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30/ yep. You all know my situation: city boy on the homestead for ~ 7 years. I've got a friend in similar boat. Both of us white collar, so can throw capital in. Both of us have. HUGE capital sinks. He's got a massive 50 ton loader & big tractor >https://twitter.com/EricRichards22/status/1254850385593929730 …
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31/ and I've been throwing similar capital in but in a different mix: smaller machines, but lots of them, and maybe more spent on land improvement (I think? not sure). I've got a tractor and maybe 15 implements. Old family farm prob has 4 tractors and 40, plus junk/scrap piles
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32/ And there's so much stuff that's gated by either owning the right tool, or by having the wrong tool plus a welder, or by having a buddy who has the right tool and can loan it to your for a week.
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34/ Yep, strongly agree. US was already moving at a steady clip towards a work-remotely job ecosystem, and covid as turbocharged that. Pick a career that allows remote work, if you can. https://twitter.com/ZeroBolusZero/status/1254851871564394497 …
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35/ this is an excellent point related: probably the thing that most prepared me for homesteading was ... running a 10 person ecommerce companyhttps://twitter.com/ngvrnd/status/1254852223529619458 …
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36/ your customer support person tells you that database queries are running slower and slower, the website is becoming less responsive ...and you're the only person who knows database stuff at all...and you don't know much TOO BAD SOLVE THE PROBLEM, SOMEHOW
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37/ same energy as You slaughtered three large pigs, you butchered one, 1200 lbs of meat to go ... you slip on the ice and break your rib and now it hurts to breath, and you've got 1200 lbs of meat that will rot unless you finish butchering TOO BAD SOLVE THE PROBLEM, SOMEHOW
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38/ you cut down a tree ... and it falls backwards, hanging up on other trees. You now have a 4,000 lb "widow maker" hanging in mid air, and you don't have a winch or a block-and-tackle TOO BAD SOLVE THE PROBLEM, SOMEHOW
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39/ You've gotta be willing to be scared out of your gourd, frustrated, angry at the situation, and kind of overwhelmed ... and still keep your crap together, buckle down, and fix the problem.
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40/ Yep, good advice. Also, if you have a summer off, you can look into http://wwoofusa.org/ where you trade labor for internship learninghttps://twitter.com/jcenters/status/1254853319119515648 …
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41/ a b̶o̶a̶t̶ ̶ homestead is a hole in the w̶a̶t̶e̶r̶ dirt that you throw money intohttps://twitter.com/HeadwaysMatter/status/1254853485532758018 …
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42/ yep! I've got a wide variety of 'em. Tractor, brushhog, milling machine, drill press, log splitter, hay baler, etc etc etc caveat: if you're not yet deeply mechanically skilled, you might rather buy new(ish) than save money and buying a headachehttps://twitter.com/spongeworthy2/status/1254854022118256641 …
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43/ Not only does NY have a lot of open land, but it is - for my money - the most beautiful land in the north east. If it didn't have high taxes, I'd rather homestead in the Hudson valley than here in NH. https://twitter.com/NullifiedVoice/status/1254854643173060608 …
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44/ this is a good question! yes, self sufficiency is possible - that's why my wife and I homestead. We raise most of our own food (pigs, sheep, ducks, fruit trees, veggies, etc.). https://twitter.com/NullifiedVoice/status/1254855390891618305 …
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