A 70 year old woman who is kind to children and cats, and good at teaching pottery classes has a lot of value. ...but her SMV is 0, and that means that, in a pragmatic, DESCRIPTIVE sense, her value is fairly low. I don't argue that this is great. I argue that this is.
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Replying to @MorlockP @polyaletheia and
There is an endless supply of essays written by late 30s / 40s / 50s women about how men used to smile at them, let them cut in line, hold the door for them....and now they're invisible. Yeah...so now you're treated just like, you know, MEN are. THAT MUST BE SO HARD FOR YOU.
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I agree with you on the object level but you're communicating this in a way that OP is near-certain to reject
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Replying to @MorlockP @sonyasupposedly and
...but perhaps you can translate from sperg to Other
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Replying to @MorlockP @sonyasupposedly and
OP is expressing that hearing about how SMV drops for women after 30 is *painful* esp as one approaches 30 (rational arguments and nuance aside, sometimes shit like that gets disproportionately magnified) arguing "well it DOES," with a snarky tone, is unlikely to go over well
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Replying to @selentelechia @MorlockP and
OP was a conversation about a subjective impression and the resulting painful feeling your tweets were about a model of the world (and seem to be responding preemptively to double-standard lines you've seen women spout but which OP did not) so you're talking across one another
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Replying to @selentelechia @sonyasupposedly and
the word "harmful" has a meaning the word "trope" also has a meaning ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Replying to @MorlockP @selentelechia and
perhaps your argument is "yes, and she was using those words in an idiosyncratic way, and so you should not use the dictionary to understand her meaning", in which case, OK, sure, ... but that doesn't make me the bad guy, or the one who is communicating poorly
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Replying to @MorlockP @sonyasupposedly and
I think harmful struck me as reasonable bc this post was *conveying a feeling* so the vocabulary didn't register as immediately relevant and I don't actually disagree with your point I think sonya's point and mine round off to "you're not wrong, you're just ineffective"
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good points re "ineffective" - likely so! I rarely set out to convince an OP, and often just riff to explain my ideas to other interested parties.
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Replying to @MorlockP @selentelechia and
>you're not wrong, you're just ineffective Traditionally, "you're not wrong" is followed by a different conclusion ... one which is also true.
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