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That's a serious question!
I'd love your answer @EricChr15868637, but I'll assume that it's "no". (If it's "yes", please tell me your addr, because I have a relative that's partially native American and I'm sure she'd like a free house).
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16/ So in this example, let us presume that neighbor Z, who owns the property over which your driveway runs (because of the easement) asks the town for permission to build a wall blocking your driveway. The town says "yep, looks good!" You, as a good libertarian >>>
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17/ DEFEND your neighbor's right to build a wall that blocks the easement that you own, yes? It doesn't matter that that easement was factored into the purchase price of your house. Your house WAS worth $400k and is now worth $300k, but that's OK because LIBERTARIAN
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18/ And let us next imagine that another neighbor, who is closer to lake than you, asks the town for permission to build a building across the boat ramp. The boat ramp that you have access to because of a redistribution of property rights 110 years ago. Once again you are cool
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19/ Now, to make these examples a bit closer to the actual zoning case, imagine that in 1923 the town passed a zoning law saying "we declare this a resiidential zone ; none of these 500 houses may build a shopping mall or a steel mill". You had two small rights peeled off of
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20/ your bundle of property rights, and 1,000 new small ones added to the bundle: you can be guaranteed that neighbor Z will never build a steel mill and ruin your views or air. And you paid for this, in a sense, by losing your own right, via this mutual "contract" of sorts.
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21/ So, that's the bundle of property rights that you purchased. And you learn, today, that the town has approved your neighbor's plans to build a steel mill...about 18 feet off the property line, and 32 feet off the road. Your curb appeal takes a bit of a hit!
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22/ ...and your property rights were violated. BUT BECAUSE YOU ARE A LIBERTARIAN, you say "the government is good, I love the government, anything the government does is wonderful, THIS IS FINE". yes?
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23/ So, in my case, I purchased this farm 6 years ago. I read the zoning law, start to finish, 7 years ago - before I made a purchase offer on the farm. I learned at that point in time that the bundle of property I was bidding on included:
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24/ * 12 acres of pasture * 40 acres of forest * 1 house * 1 barn * 1 pond * the guarantee that no buildings would be built within 30 feet of my land or within 50 feet of the road * MINUS the right to build within 30 feet of MY property line and that's what I purchased.
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25/ But then a GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL decided to remove one of those pieces of property from me, without due process (5A, 14A violation) and without just compensation (5A violation). And your argument is: as a libertarian, I should ignore this.
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26/ This is an extremely good rebuttal
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27/ I'm not sure what a "personally written contract" means. Explain, please? I do, in fact, have a contract with the town. That contract is the zoning code plus the state laws that insists that it be applied correctly and with due process. https://twitter.com/EricChr15868637/status/1216867689274265600 …
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29/ It's not a "Home Depot do-it-yourself shed". It's a ~25 foot tall, 2,500 square foot ground footprint, up to 5,000 square foot internal layout (bc 2nd floor) industrial steel building located 18' feet off my property line. https://twitter.com/EricChr15868637/status/1216865588427087873 …
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30/ Dude has almost 2 acres of land, could have put it anywhere he wanted ... but chose - because town violated the law and said he could - to put it WAY up in one corner.
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@EricChr15868637 so you seem to suggest that inconvenience don't real, but quantifiable cash damages do, yes? So if the government violates the law and causes a decline in property values, is that a taking? https://twitter.com/EricChr15868637/status/1216870130703126528 …This Tweet is unavailable.Show this thread -
32/ Exactly. Many software engineers never grasp pointers, or meta programming. Many libertarians never grasp Kegan levels beyond 2, or stable markets, or any property more abstract than a toothbrush or a gold coin.https://twitter.com/JasonTrippet/status/1216872128982609920 …
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33/ Did the vegan sue her neighbor? Or did the vegan sue the town? Was the vegan suing a government employee for violating the law? Call me silly, but as an ACTUAL LIBERTARIAN, I think suing government officials for malfeasance is kinda cool. https://twitter.com/EricChr15868637/status/1216872168929267713 …
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34/ explain things in big words, and he can't follow patiently explain things slowly and https://twitter.com/EricChr15868637/status/1216869837537935360 …
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35/ anyway, I think I've made my point I want to leave you all with
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36/ Why is "farm" in scare quotes here,
@EricChr15868637 ? It's a hobby farm, yes, but it's a farm. I raise almost all of my own meat, butcher my own pigs, make pies from the fruit from my orchard, etc. How much of your meat do you raise? https://twitter.com/EricChr15868637/status/1217003745533448192 …This Tweet is unavailable.Show this thread -
37/ > the town already gave the guy permission except there is an appeals process to overturn incorrect / illegal decisions by town employees who break the law > It is not going to get torn down. except there is an explicit process for that too https://twitter.com/EricChr15868637/status/1217003745533448192 …
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40/ 1) concur, software engineering is my main source of income. Followed by writing. Farming is a hobby, as I've said many times. 2) fines for illegal construction are $275/day until it's torn down http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/LXIV/676/676-17.htm … https://twitter.com/EricChr15868637/status/1217205168598634497 …
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41/ but the rule that says that the courts can force a building to be torn down is not RSA 676:17, but RSA 676:15, here http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/LXIV/676/676-15.htm …
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