Science fiction is a mostly American literary form. How many Saudi science fiction novels were published last year? Columbian? Who's your favorite female Kenyan science fiction author?https://twitter.com/cosmicdog/status/1202043807170039808 …
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2/ Where do I get my data? From reading in the field. From reading Locus, which covers the field. From talking to my agent, who negotiates foreign deals. From talking to the publisher who's translating my novels to Russian. Where do you get YOUR data?https://twitter.com/cosmicdog/status/1202047659948662787?s=19 …
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4/ Sure! I've read SF by Brits, Germans, Aussies, Russians, Chinese. But just bc something is global doesn't mean that it's EQUALLY DISTRIBUTED. I'm not arguing "ONLY American men write SF". I'm arguing "They write a disproportionate amount of it".https://twitter.com/bearded_archer/status/1202050057249415168?s=19 …
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Bearded Archer 🐍 🔻 ✊ @bearded_archerReplying to @MorlockPWhat about Harry Potter, JK Rowling is American? How about science fiction in Spanish? Spain, Perú, México, Colombia have some pretty good science fiction writers. Poland has good science fiction writers. That being said, the English Language market for SF is larger.6 replies 0 retweets 16 likesShow this thread -
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5/ The guy who says that American men write only 2% of SF (bc Bayesianism) is claiming I'm making stuff up?
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Jonathan Ward @cosmicdogReplying to @MorlockPYou’re making stuff up and calling it data. You’re wrong. It’s true that a great many SF authors and books come from American men, it’s not all or nearly all or even half. I’m sorry that it offends you that the other at least 65% of the SF world is getting recognized.3 replies 0 retweets 11 likesShow this thread -
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6/ Also, Harry Potter isn't SF. ...unless you're talking about HPMOR...in which case you have to drop both the "non American" and "non female" claims... Which...yes, speaks to my point.https://twitter.com/bearded_archer/status/1202050057249415168?s=19 …
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Bearded Archer 🐍 🔻 ✊ @bearded_archerReplying to @MorlockPWhat about Harry Potter, JK Rowling is American? How about science fiction in Spanish? Spain, Perú, México, Colombia have some pretty good science fiction writers. Poland has good science fiction writers. That being said, the English Language market for SF is larger.2 replies 0 retweets 16 likesShow this thread -
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7/ Also, you're doing that dishonest thing where you assume my motivations (incorrectly) so that you can signal your virtue in comparison. I have ZERO problem with women, or with non Americans winning the Hugo. But, since you like statistics >>>https://twitter.com/cosmicdog/status/1202050261729959936?s=19 …
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Jonathan Ward @cosmicdogReplying to @MorlockPYou’re making stuff up and calling it data. You’re wrong. It’s true that a great many SF authors and books come from American men, it’s not all or nearly all or even half. I’m sorry that it offends you that the other at least 65% of the SF world is getting recognized.2 replies 0 retweets 11 likesShow this thread -
8/ If - using your numbers - 55% of SF authors are American, and 37% are female, and about 18% are American and female, how likely is it - given fair judging - that 8 of the last 10 Hugos went to American females? < 1 in 10,000, I think. I mean..if the judging is fair.
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p = C(10,8)*(0.18^8)*(0.82^2). A little better than 1 in 30,000. (Assuming that it's a random process.)pic.twitter.com/aRIkpSTWLj
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Hah! Did it in my head, estimating. Pretty close!
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And crickets This is why I don't argue with you. I could, but I'd be wrong.
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