"Behaving like an adult" includes playing with children, especially grandmothers with babies. And yes that can get noisy; I don't mind. Most parents don't mind. And I greatly prefer social norms where that's okay. Those who do mind can go to restaurants with different norms.
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this is a fight I get into with Browning Machine. He's an ADHD extrovert and loves Glorious Freedom Noise, so revving jet ski engines, stereos pounding so loud that people at other farms can hear him, the thrill of doing 120 on roads with 40 mph speed limits are all great >>>
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when I criticize him for, say, the jetski noise, he says "but in this community EVERYONE loves jetski noises!" ...and then tells a story 15 minutes later about how some neighbor was yelling at him for making too much noise. so, apparently, no, everyone doesn't but then >>>
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(I was just mentally recapping the thread myself, and starting to formulate such follow-on questions as well) (of course)
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