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Two-time Prometheus award-winning hard science fiction author. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005JPPMS6  Learn how to homestead https://www.amazon.com/dp/B093BC3K1T 

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    1. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

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      I've got a big rant that it's inherently impossible. Lots of preppers want to buy such a thing, And lots of folks want to sell such a thing (can of survival seeds, field of Jerusalem artichokes), but what's really necessary is practice, skill, local knowledge. https://twitter.com/gaitanalyst/status/1197672195264266240 …

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    2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

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      2/ ok! https://twitter.com/gaitanalyst/status/1197870910658809856 …

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    3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

      3/ so, to reiterate, people WANT gardening and survival farming and hobby farming to be simple / modular / whatever. My favorite example of this is prepper folks who post to message boards asking "ok, I've got access to an acre of land 2 hours away - what can I plan that >

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    4. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

      4/ that doesn't need watering, doesn't need fertilizer, doesn't need weeding, but will beat food so that if I have to grab my bug out bag and head out there, I'll have 5 person years of food ready to pick? I was thinking maybe Jerusalem artichokes?"

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    5. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

      5/ Step back. Think about what gardening and farming is. The ecosystem is a ruthlessly competitive Darwinian endeavor where the organisms that reproduce fast and fend off predators survive. Every plan that exists survives in that environment. Storing huge piles of calories >

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    6. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

      6/ in convenient, ready-to-pluck form is a waste of energy that could be better spent reproducing, growing thorns and poisons to keep predators away, etc. Those things that thrive? They're what we call weeds. Also, trees. Few or zero calories.

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    7. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

      7/ The things that humans call food are things that we willed into existence by (a) selective breeding, (b) ...for unnatural environments. Let me explain:

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    8. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

      8/ Potatoes or corn or whatever waste their energy storing calories. There's no way they can survive in the natural Darwinian state. Mankind didn't just create these species, we created environments they live in * artificial irrigation * artificial lack of competition (weeding)

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    9. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

      9/ The environment is crucial. Corn beats out weeds only in the environment known as "a farm run by a human". In EVERY OTHER ENVIRONMENT, weeds beat out corn. So farming and gardening is really "the science of creating artificial environments".

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    10. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

      10/ <puts fedora on> ok, that sounds easy enough ! I just get a 50 lb sack of "artificial environment" and sprinkle it over the soil, right? No. Environment has a dozen dimensions: * sunlight * water * seed planting depth * fertilizer type * fertilizer schedule * weeding >>>

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      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

      11/ Yeah, but still ... we could make a big box that has tubes coming out of it, and the tubs carry water and food and weedkiller to the crops, and ... well, OK, people try this. In the limit (zero soil), it's aquaponics ... and it requires a TON of equipment per calorie out.

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        2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          12/ If you're still planting in dirt, then it's called "fertigation" ( fertilizer + irrigation). But how much fertilizer? How much irrigation? Depends. Also, the right solution isn't static. You have to have a human in the loop, inspecting plants every day or two.

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        3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          13/ Are the plants a bit yellow? Too much water. A bit brown? Too little. White mold on the leaves? Gray mold? Rust colored specs? Small orange and black beetles? Failing to thrive? Holes in leaves? There's an encyclopedia of knowledge FOR EACH CROP SPECIES.

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        4. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          14/ When do you harvest it? How do you harvest it? How do you store it? oops, skipped a step! Often you have to "harden off" before storage. Ignore that and your crop rots in the basement. How long does the stored crop last? How do you save seeds for replanting?

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        5. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          15/ And every single detail in the thread above differs in Maine vs Ohio vs TN vs TX.

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        6. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          16/ So, anyway, to restate my thesis: * yes, you need tools to garden. One could imagine a starter set of spade, shovel, irrigation tube, weed barrier, trowel, dibbing stick, etc. And have 54 variants for zones 1-6 times crops A-I. * ...but you need so much knowledge too.

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        7. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          17/ So it's sort of like asking "I want to paint portraits of people, but also still lifes of apples - which two 'how to paint' kits should I buy? Why does no one sell these?"

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        8. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

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          18/ Studying how to forage dandelion leaves and how to process acorns to make them edible, and all the rest is a fun hobby, but, yes, we're agreed that if SHTF, it's a non starter. I suspect even an expert would be hard pressed to find 500 cal/day https://twitter.com/rich_marie/status/1197887675455307779 …

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        9. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

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          19/ Very cool! Yes, I certainly think this is doable - I mean, we have an existence proof in recent times from American natives, etc. (a) I'm super impressed (b) off on a tangent from original question re "garden in a box" kits. https://twitter.com/rich_marie/status/1197888743543164931 …

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        10. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          20/ I've been hobby farming for almost 6 years now, and despite: * 6 years of practice * dozens of books read * somewhere between $10,000 and $100k on equipment, depending on how you count my results are still inconsistent

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        11. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          21/ $20k low end = tractor + 1 or 2 implements, plus a bunch of shovels & random crap high end includes that plus a greenhouse, raised beds, underground water to the green house, butcher equipment, a new subpanel + chest freezers, labor, fencing, irrigation, weed barrier, gates

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        12. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Camping Roomba

          22/ (a) I bet half by volume, not by calories. A dozen tomatoes look great on the table, but ... (b) I suspect your parents had years of experience dialing the whole process in, no?https://twitter.com/ctdonath/status/1197891741229162496 …

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          Camping Roomba @ctdonath
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          As a kid we grew about half our food. Seemed much less cost/effort than you experience, but was still a LOT of work (and no meat).
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        13. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Camping Roomba

          23/ ok, then this sounds like it's perfectly compatible with my view of things, yes? or am I missing something?https://twitter.com/ctdonath/status/1197892946781188096 …

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          Camping Roomba @ctdonath
          Replying to @MorlockP
          Grains & meat were bought, yes. That's dense calories. Seemed like they got the big garden under control pretty quick, but was LOTS of effort, and the near-self-sufficient step was made after years of small suburban garden. Sure wasn't an out-of-the-box experience.
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        14. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted eggwifeguy

          24/ I strongly agree with this. There are only two "how to farm after SHTF" models: (a) don't; have a huge amount of cheap food stored (b) already have 10 years +/- of experience farming for 50% + of your calories.https://twitter.com/simplic10/status/1197927933798518784 …

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          eggwifeguy @simplic10
          Great thread. I think if there’s a right prepper model it’s “have enough canned beans to see you through a LONG learning curve in ag/hunter-gathering”. https://twitter.com/MorlockP/status/1197857957192568837 …
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        15. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          25/ ...and even for folks who farm before SHTF, you probably want a ton of stored food. Farm is hard in the best of times ...when you can buy diesel 1 mile down the road for $2.50/gallon...and can get pig feed delivered for $13/50 lbs sack (10% off if you order 1+ tons).

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        16. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          26/ I can't remotely imagine what I'd do in a "six nines" disaster. Electric gone, diesel gone, no truck loads of pig feed? Whew lads! Probably die, like everyone else.

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        17. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Isegoria

          27/ Depends - do you want to prepare for WW III ? Or just take up gardening as a hobby? If WW III: build a small cabin with a wood stove, and a basement full of cheap survival carbs.https://twitter.com/Isegoria/status/1197931777005957120 …

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          Isegoria @Isegoria
          Replying to @MorlockP
          So, what is practical for a hobbyist with some land but limited time?
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        18. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          28/ If hobby gardening - plant a few fruit trees, maybe a raised bed, maybe a chicken coop with some automatic feeder and waterer that you refill on weekends.

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        19. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Matt S "therapeutic lalochezia advocate" Trout

          29/ AKSHUALLY, I think the preppers tend to believe more in "magic seeds". Almost a fairy tale, if you think about it...https://twitter.com/shadowcat_mst/status/1197936979134033921 …

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          Matt S "therapeutic lalochezia advocate" Trout @shadowcat_mst
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          ... so there's a right wing magic dirt fallacy too!
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        20. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          30/ Wife saw some prepper video (or magazine article? IDK) once where the guy was saying that THINGS can be TAKEN FROM YOU, maaaaan ... so what you REALLY want is knowledge. Because if you have that, others will band together with you. She told me this and we both laughed. >>

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        21. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          31/ Cause I'm picturing guys like my farmhands. Remember the one who told me I should plant corn seeds 4 feet underground like the Hopi indians? That guy had no equipment, but he SURE HAD A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE !!!1!

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        22. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          32/ So picture the scenario: day minus 1 : tensions w China increase day 0: news is talking about EMP bombs - then the power goes out day 1-3: you cooperate w neighbors, arrange patrols, lock all your doors day 4: three hippies from Cambridge show up with bug out bags >>>

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        23. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          33/ "hey, maan ... we're here to share our knowledge with you. We don't have food or tools, we've never practiced gardening, we have no fuel. But that's OK, maaaaan...YOU'VE GOT THOSE THINGS! So let's, like, form a mutual aid survivor camp and we'll tell you what to do!"

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        24. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Richard Harper

          34/https://twitter.com/harpersnotes/status/1197938912770981888 …

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          Richard Harper @harpersnotes
          Farming is hard. Our family homesteaded in Alaska in the 1950's which among other things required getting the land ready for farming. Dad often said it reinforced his experiences that the only people who were at all successful at farming came from a long line of farmers. https://twitter.com/MorlockP/status/1197857957192568837 …
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        25. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted BrittleBear

          35/ The full story is even funnier >>https://twitter.com/BrtlBearFeBull/status/1197939324651745280 …

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          BrittleBear @BrtlBearFeBull
          Replying to @MorlockP
          Ah yes the Hopi, a group whose practices adapted to such New Hampshire-esque environs like... the high desert of the Colorado Plateau.
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        26. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          36/ FSP hippie: you should plant your corn 4 feet underground me: excuse me? FSP H: yeah, my dad says that's what the Hop indians do. Because moisture. me: uh...well, it's pretty moist here, so... FSP H: no, it's better me: I...I really don't think that works. See, >>>

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        27. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          37/ me: ...every seed is a little nanotech factory that has machinery to build a plant, and also an initial food store. The seed has to build enough plant to get above ground using just the calories in the seed, because it gets no light for photosynthesis until then.

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        28. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          38/ FSP H: yeah, but the Hopi do it me: you learned this from the Hopi? FSP H: no, from my dad. He's a bit of a hobby farmer, like you. me: REALLY? And...does his farm work well? FSP H: oh, no, it's a disaster ; his crops usually fail me:pic.twitter.com/M616M3OpAZ

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        29. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          39/ years later I figured out the kernel of insanity turns out that Hopi had to deal with a drying wind, so instead of raised beds, they built bathtub like DEPRESSED beds. Dig a trench 4' wide by 10' long. Then plant seeds in the bottom of that. ...and plant them 1/2" deep

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        30. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          40/ Somewhere along the line, twixt the Hopi and FSP hippie's dad, perhaps, or maybe between FSP H D and FSP H, the "four feet deep" detail got connected not to the BED but to the SEED. Sigh.

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        31. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 22 Nov 2019

          41/ Anyway: may God bless and keep the "lots of theoretical knowledge" farm hippies

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