1/ new Moldbug piece https://americanmind.org/features/conservatism-in-the-bronze-age/the-deep-state-vs-the-deep-right/ … I love this > Art...aims at supreme aesthetic excellence. It does not even deign to notice its audience. One thing I disagree with many of the pulprev, etc. people is "we give the audience what they want" I, for one, do NOT.
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2/ John Barnes looked at the third draft of my novel and told me "You can probably sell it to Baen" ouch
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3/ Now, that's prima donna BS on my part. Howeverpic.twitter.com/bu95PLjG86
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4/ It's entirely reasonable for working men to deliver decent quality product to earn money to pay the rent. More power to them. But I am not writing for my audience. I am writing a very specific thing that I want to exist for my own reasons, with my own name on the cover.
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5/ When I deliver a thing, it will find an audience. That audience may be zero people, or it may be 200 million. (So far, it's at the "rounds to zero" end of that continuum). But that's OK.
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6/ It would be wonderful if readers enjoy my novels, but I am not writing for the readers. I am writing for arete. Moldbug, as usual, is right.
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7/ yep, I thought of this earlier and decided not to include it in the thread bc "no one will question me on THAT" (sigh) yes, art has to imagine / posit / create a standard of merit, which is more or less synonymous with an audience >>>https://twitter.com/random_eddie/status/1187479777902551051 …
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Eddie, Son of Richard @random_eddieReplying to @random_eddie @MorlockPOne can imagine a performing artist who doesn't care whether anyone shows up - let alone enjoys the work - but even so the performance is FOR a hypothetical audience, even if that audience never actually exists. ... but that's sidewise to your point, which of course is correct.1 reply 0 retweets 5 likesShow this thread -
8/ So I tended to think along lines of "well, if Heinlein, Niven, Stephenson, and a variant of me who hadn't written this novel were to read this novel and discuss it, what would they call out as delightful? and what as disappointing?" goal: maximize former, eliminate latter
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I balance that against "I'm never going to learn to write a great novel if I don't keep cranking out books, and if people will pay me for them, all the better..."
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Replying to @robkroese @MorlockP
We can't all win awards with our first attempt you know
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we shouldn't all try either wait, no NONE of us should try my approach was, again, objectively stupid
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