2/ Saying stupid wrong things annoys me. Saying stupid wrong things when you think that they're "gotchas" because I didn't do my research annoys me more. https://twitter.com/AdamKarnes/status/1174740213832138753 …
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13/ "well, they should come out into the open so we can kill them fairly". It's all just emotional flailing because of, I presume, cognitive dissonance between (a) "we're the good guys / they're the bad guys" and (b) "ooh, those numbers are damning".
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14/ First off, I don't believe you. Maybe I'm wrong, but the kind of guy who says "LOL wikipedia" isn't the kind of guy who clicks footnotes. If you had, I'd expect "LOL, this links to a report from XYZ who's a flake". Second >>> https://twitter.com/AdamKarnes/status/1174749573631205376 …
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15/ I'm not asking you to give "special weight" (your words) to the report. I cited numbers. You said "LOL". Do you have better numbers, or are you going to just LOL at any facts that don't align with your favored policy?
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16/ good meme https://twitter.com/jabocka/status/1174750797948694531 …
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17/ Of course that's what they're doing. They've got a retarded conception that either a) American good, Taliban bad b) America bad, Taliban good and they're [ stupidly ] mapping what I AM saying to a thing I'm NOT saying, then fighting the strawman https://twitter.com/TheAgeofShoddy/status/1174753294457008128 …
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The war was good in its most basic concept - "you refuse to turn over those who attacked us; we're gonna come get 'em." It was bad in specific concept - we had no business trying to remake even such a horrid country. It was atrocious in execution.
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A woefully under-used argument against wars is that the people running them are rarely any good at it and will cause far less good and far more harm than they claim. Instead we quarrel over what aims are desirable or who "deserves" what.
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I would be perfectly willing to make in support an argument that we actually haven't killed enough people in Afghanistan in order to attain the goals that we stated we wanted upfront. I would actually support those goals, but I recognize others can differ.
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But the idea that others can differ on relatively essential things and be in accordance elsewhere has left the building when it comes to Twitter. Reason, logic, the actual purpose of debate? Who needs that.
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