I mostly agree. I find no huge need to differentiate the two. But I reject "because they overlap, there is no difference". I EXTRA reject "your valued thing doesn't exist / is really just a special case of MY thing". It's a pure power play.
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I differentiate a lot, and see a LONG history. Poe, Verne, Wells, Huxley, Lewis, Asimov, Heinlein... Hal Clement, Frederik Pohl, Larry Niven, Bear/Brin/Benford/Baxter, Michael Flynn, Nancy Kress, Michael Crichton, Kim Stanley Robinson, Greg Egan, Peter Watts, Alastair Reynolds..
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Many of those you name are more contemporary, as it was really around Campbell's time that the line was being more strictly drawn. Poe had plenty of weird and fantastical elements in many of his stories, as well as some "sciency" stuff.
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If by Lewis you mean CS, he certainly blended the two, though he tended more toward fantasy.
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As for Niven and many of the rest, I'd point to what
@DemilichJim has observed - many scifi devices like FTL are basically dressed up fantasy that is handwaved into being "science."1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
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If you look at many older SFF authors like Burroughs, Lovecraft, Howard, Moore, and successors like Vance, Herbert, Anderson, Brackett, you'll see they felt little need to keep their scifi and fantasy elements quarantined. It all blended finely.
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The objection I have to too much blending is that a lot of modern fantasy has no IDEAS in it. Like someone hands me a drink and says "Here try this experimental health drink" and it turns out to be a milkshake with corn syrup and "cinnamon" as the "experimental" ingredient.
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Right, and I think this is in part because of a stagnation caused by the forced divine between SF and F. Fantasy has been standardized into Tolkien mishmash with occasional injections of anime or someone's D&D homebrew.
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The kind of stuff I love now is no longer mainstream. I think maybe indies like
@robkroese are doing this stuff, but not really big authors/pubs; not for a while.1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @PCBushi @almostlikethat and
Poul Anderson's The High Crusade is a perfect example.
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yeah read this ~6 months ago
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Replying to @MorlockP @almostlikethat and
What did you think? So far it's my favorite of Anderson's works, and also (maybe not coincidentally) the most gonzo.
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