58/ 1) I don't think manor system was terrible. I'm not railing against everything feudal-like. I'm railing against the one PARTICULAR proposal made this morning 2) but to be pedantic: what's your data for saying "people didn't hate it" ? Srs question https://twitter.com/AmericanDan1776/status/1161031452865245184 …
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59/ To expand on "what's your data?", I think this is a really important question for almost every debate, political or otherwise, and I'm as skeptical of the trads saying "everyone loved feudalism" as I am of the commies saying "everyone hated feudalism". Cite facts!
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60/ And the thing is, there probably is not a whole lot of data on what people thought of feudalism. Acknowledging this would take the wind out of sails and temper arguments. "I think feudalism probably sucked / was great for for people like me" is a heck of a sane statement.
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62/ And also explaining my Vulcan ways to folks who are not familiar with them.
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63/ Heck, I experienced it from others early on, and - to avoid the pain of having my ideas slapped later on - developed the technique of slapping them myself. The old military saw of "the more sweat on the training field, the less blood on the battle field" ? Works for ideas.
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65/ When I see Brom and others argue for "my grandfather should be the local king and I should have no autonomy", I think of this framing. People are afraid of autonomy and cry for mom.https://twitter.com/drethelin/status/1161321364252430336 …
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Misha. Angel Investor, Photographer, Shitposter @drethelinYou go through alternating layers of hope despair as you grow up. As an infant you don’t know anything so the best you can do to solve problems is cry for help. As you learn concrete skills/info you become happier until you learn to see more problems. Some folks get stuck.Show this thread3 replies 0 retweets 10 likesShow this thread -
66/ Except, actually, they're crying for dad. I'd bet that 80+% of men who want hard family patriarchy are victims of broken homes. Their dad left, their mom did her best but left them soft and weak and afraid, and their ideal society has Powerful Dad Figures.
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People have tried this (op’s dream life) with kibbutzes, and some are still going strong in Israel and manufacturing weapons and solar panels. Alternately, this is basically how the Amish and Hutterites and so on live. It’s an option!
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sure! I believe in Nozickian meta-utopia (basically "Patchwork" 20 years earlier). I want communes, small feudal holdings, etc. to be options . But Brometheus' version was pitched as the norm, not as one small option in a bigger world ...which is horrifying.
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