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50/ Fallacy of the excluded middle, my dude. That's been your problem in this entire thread. THE ONLY CHOICE IS BUGMAN HIVES OR PAKISTANI STYLE TRIBAL AREAS !!!1! How about nuclear families in private homes in suburbs paired with fulfilling jobs? https://twitter.com/TheBrometheus/status/1161015484512374784 …
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51/ Wife had the same reaction. Like a starving man dreaming of eating a dozen pizzas. https://twitter.com/RaltsB/status/1161022440337805312 …
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52/ To the contrary, I think Brom communicated his idea quite clearly and unambiguously. Perhaps what you're saying is that you have a similar idea that differs in some particulars from his idea? https://twitter.com/AmericanDan1776/status/1161024916495511552 …
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53/ > and you attacked what he actually wrote in your usual manner. I wouldn't even call it "attacked". I just analyzed it ruthlessly. Tho the difference is likely only one of motivation and not effect.
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54/ Again, I didn't IMPLY anything. I mostly just quoted. If you're saying he expressed his somewhat nebulous ideas w a false degree of certainty, I'm willing to tentatively accept that ( ideally Brom would then agree; I continue to dislike apologia) https://twitter.com/AmericanDan1776/status/1161027258225700864 …
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55/ He did explain it in excruciating detail. That's the problem. I just quoted his actual words. Maybe you wish he hadn't said "20 relatives in one big house" or "dad selects your spouse" but ... well, he DID say those things. /shrug https://twitter.com/JesseLucasSaga/status/1161027820392460289 …
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56/ I didn't make one thing up. I didn't ask for clarification because Brom wasn't ambiguous. https://twitter.com/Xayveir/status/1161028903764467714 …
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57/ This may very well be true. I can only address the words that a writer chooses to put down, not the ones he doesn't. /shrug If Brom wants to take another stab at expressing himself, I will engage in good faith. https://twitter.com/AmericanDan1776/status/1161030298156642307 …
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58/ 1) I don't think manor system was terrible. I'm not railing against everything feudal-like. I'm railing against the one PARTICULAR proposal made this morning 2) but to be pedantic: what's your data for saying "people didn't hate it" ? Srs question https://twitter.com/AmericanDan1776/status/1161031452865245184 …
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59/ To expand on "what's your data?", I think this is a really important question for almost every debate, political or otherwise, and I'm as skeptical of the trads saying "everyone loved feudalism" as I am of the commies saying "everyone hated feudalism". Cite facts!
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60/ And the thing is, there probably is not a whole lot of data on what people thought of feudalism. Acknowledging this would take the wind out of sails and temper arguments. "I think feudalism probably sucked / was great for for people like me" is a heck of a sane statement.
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@AmericanDan1776 doing God's work in reuniting the fractured tribes of tradcon https://twitter.com/AmericanDan1776/status/1161035701594591232 …This Tweet is unavailable.Show this thread -
62/ And also explaining my Vulcan ways to folks who are not familiar with them.
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63/ Heck, I experienced it from others early on, and - to avoid the pain of having my ideas slapped later on - developed the technique of slapping them myself. The old military saw of "the more sweat on the training field, the less blood on the battle field" ? Works for ideas.
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65/ When I see Brom and others argue for "my grandfather should be the local king and I should have no autonomy", I think of this framing. People are afraid of autonomy and cry for mom.https://twitter.com/drethelin/status/1161321364252430336 …
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66/ Except, actually, they're crying for dad. I'd bet that 80+% of men who want hard family patriarchy are victims of broken homes. Their dad left, their mom did her best but left them soft and weak and afraid, and their ideal society has Powerful Dad Figures.
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