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Two-time Prometheus award-winning hard science fiction author. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005JPPMS6  Learn how to homestead https://www.amazon.com/dp/B093BC3K1T 

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    1. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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      35/ I used that word, because it means "idealized vision" and further "that does not exist" (eu- / u- prefix issue). Now, why do I feel justified in calling his vision utopian? >>> https://twitter.com/danwolfgang_/status/1160933326846341120 …

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    2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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      36/ because of these ~4 tweets https://twitter.com/TheBrometheus/status/1160726693998260224 …

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    3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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      37/ https://twitter.com/TheBrometheus/status/1160726695659225090 …

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    4. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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    5. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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      39/ https://twitter.com/TheBrometheus/status/1160726698205167616 …

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    6. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

      40/ Brometheus: "these are idealized statements" Morlock: "he describes a utopia" @danwolfgang_: " Please point to where @TheBrometheus used the word 'utopia' or any of its synonyms. " BANG DONE

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    7. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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      41/ God damn you bastards, stop reverse Motte-and-Baileying this! Brometheus: you all live in one house, you do your laundry together, your dad choses your spouse me: ugh, that's hell you all: check out Morlock who hates families ! smdh https://twitter.com/danwolfgang_/status/1160934476748382209 …

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    8. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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      42/ Brometheus: <hellscape vision> me: that's a hellscape vision you: he never said that me: yes he did, let me quote you: well, OK, sure, he said that, but he preempted all of your critiques stahp STAHPPPPP https://twitter.com/danwolfgang_/status/1160934618255822848 …

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    9. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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      43/ rando, sticking head into a pizza shop: "Jesus, I guess this guy just...likes to make pizza, or something? what a weirdo! Pffft!" https://twitter.com/1Alienscomicfan/status/1160934938310533121 …

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    10. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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      44/ Few advocating anything have read anything.https://twitter.com/ctdonath/status/1160934797059006464 …

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      Few advocating a utopia have actually read "Utopia", the point of which was to show how absurd such pursuits tend to turn out. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0082YW4NM 
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      45/ Search Brometheus's thread for the "not to sugar coat this" phrase. That's where he explains that you have no choice in your spouse, etc. If, in his vision, you can opt out, then his "it does have constraints X, Y, Z" makes no sense. https://twitter.com/JimNanban/status/1160935719357034496 …

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        2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          46/ I talk to my folks once a week, swap emails ~ daily, and my parents and brother are coming to visit Friday. That doesn't mean I want to live in a house with them, work for my dad, and have him choose my spouse. Fallacy of the excluded middle. https://twitter.com/IcyTekla/status/1160936998154248193 …

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        3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          47/ The most sophisticated utopian visions say "if the government stopped doing this bad market-distorting thing, then I expect X would arise". The other 99.9% say "X is the best thing, so we must force it to be accepted". 🤔 https://twitter.com/LibertyFarmNH/status/1160937955873239040 …

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        4. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          48/https://twitter.com/Face_Almighty44/status/1160939707544588288 …

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          𝔻𝕦𝕩 𝔹𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕠𝕣𝕦𝕞 @Face_Almighty44
          Replying to @MorlockP @TheBrometheus @danwolfgang_
          I experienced a nuturing nuclear family with a strong but compassionate father and the idea of having something more constructive than that sounds like, as you said, hell. My father encouraged me to leave home, not to seek fortune but to found my own living family. And I did.
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        5. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          𝔻𝕦𝕩 𝔹𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕠𝕣𝕦𝕞 @Face_Almighty44
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          Loving family, dammit. And my wife grew up in a family similar to his misguided fantasy and it turned out very, very badly for them, not least because her father was bad at being the paterfamilias. He was capricious instead of strong and failed to prepare them for the outside.
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        6. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          50/ Fallacy of the excluded middle, my dude. That's been your problem in this entire thread. THE ONLY CHOICE IS BUGMAN HIVES OR PAKISTANI STYLE TRIBAL AREAS !!!1! How about nuclear families in private homes in suburbs paired with fulfilling jobs? https://twitter.com/TheBrometheus/status/1161015484512374784 …

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        7. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          51/ Wife had the same reaction. Like a starving man dreaming of eating a dozen pizzas. https://twitter.com/RaltsB/status/1161022440337805312 …

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        8. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          52/ To the contrary, I think Brom communicated his idea quite clearly and unambiguously. Perhaps what you're saying is that you have a similar idea that differs in some particulars from his idea? https://twitter.com/AmericanDan1776/status/1161024916495511552 …

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        9. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

          53/ > and you attacked what he actually wrote in your usual manner. I wouldn't even call it "attacked". I just analyzed it ruthlessly. Tho the difference is likely only one of motivation and not effect.

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        10. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          54/ Again, I didn't IMPLY anything. I mostly just quoted. If you're saying he expressed his somewhat nebulous ideas w a false degree of certainty, I'm willing to tentatively accept that ( ideally Brom would then agree; I continue to dislike apologia) https://twitter.com/AmericanDan1776/status/1161027258225700864 …

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        11. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          55/ He did explain it in excruciating detail. That's the problem. I just quoted his actual words. Maybe you wish he hadn't said "20 relatives in one big house" or "dad selects your spouse" but ... well, he DID say those things. /shrug https://twitter.com/JesseLucasSaga/status/1161027820392460289 …

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        12. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          56/ I didn't make one thing up. I didn't ask for clarification because Brom wasn't ambiguous. https://twitter.com/Xayveir/status/1161028903764467714 …

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        13. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          57/ This may very well be true. I can only address the words that a writer chooses to put down, not the ones he doesn't. /shrug If Brom wants to take another stab at expressing himself, I will engage in good faith. https://twitter.com/AmericanDan1776/status/1161030298156642307 …

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        14. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          58/ 1) I don't think manor system was terrible. I'm not railing against everything feudal-like. I'm railing against the one PARTICULAR proposal made this morning 2) but to be pedantic: what's your data for saying "people didn't hate it" ? Srs question https://twitter.com/AmericanDan1776/status/1161031452865245184 …

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        15. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

          59/ To expand on "what's your data?", I think this is a really important question for almost every debate, political or otherwise, and I'm as skeptical of the trads saying "everyone loved feudalism" as I am of the commies saying "everyone hated feudalism". Cite facts!

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        16. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

          60/ And the thing is, there probably is not a whole lot of data on what people thought of feudalism. Acknowledging this would take the wind out of sails and temper arguments. "I think feudalism probably sucked / was great for for people like me" is a heck of a sane statement.

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        17. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          61/ @AmericanDan1776 doing God's work in reuniting the fractured tribes of tradcon https://twitter.com/AmericanDan1776/status/1161035701594591232 …

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        18. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          62/ And also explaining my Vulcan ways to folks who are not familiar with them. @VarangianSkull has experienced this from the receiving end, didn't much enjoy it, and then later thanked me for treating his ideas and words seriously. https://twitter.com/AmericanDan1776/status/1161037460127846400 …

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        19. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

          63/ Heck, I experienced it from others early on, and - to avoid the pain of having my ideas slapped later on - developed the technique of slapping them myself. The old military saw of "the more sweat on the training field, the less blood on the battle field" ? Works for ideas.

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        20. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          64/ 🤔 https://twitter.com/ERecurring/status/1161056515551186944?s=19 …

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        21. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 13 Aug 2019

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          65/ When I see Brom and others argue for "my grandfather should be the local king and I should have no autonomy", I think of this framing. People are afraid of autonomy and cry for mom.https://twitter.com/drethelin/status/1161321364252430336 …

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          Misha. Angel Investor, Photographer, Shitposter @drethelin
          You go through alternating layers of hope despair as you grow up. As an infant you don’t know anything so the best you can do to solve problems is cry for help. As you learn concrete skills/info you become happier until you learn to see more problems. Some folks get stuck.
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        22. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 13 Aug 2019

          66/ Except, actually, they're crying for dad. I'd bet that 80+% of men who want hard family patriarchy are victims of broken homes. Their dad left, their mom did her best but left them soft and weak and afraid, and their ideal society has Powerful Dad Figures.

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