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Two-time Prometheus award-winning hard science fiction author. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005JPPMS6  Learn how to homestead https://www.amazon.com/dp/B093BC3K1T 

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    1. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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      22/ false ; I am neither wearing a dress, kissing some woman's ass, or writing bad fiction https://twitter.com/danwolfgang_/status/1160926908458160130 …

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    2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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      23/ No, his vision goes far beyond how clan / tribes livedhttps://twitter.com/Jeff_Weimer/status/1160925491769090048 …

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      It's describing a clan/tribe arrangement. If you want to see how that actually works in real-time, have a look at sub-saharan Africa.
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    3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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      24/ As I've said a dozen times, his vision is NOT how families worked for millenia (well, outside of the Middle East, so if you're saying "this is a great system, just look at the tribal areas of Pakistan and Afghanistan if you don't believe me", ok) https://twitter.com/ReloadedRolf/status/1160925242191175684 …

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    4. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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      25/ > Who writes a 24 post thread Same guy who writes 1300 page science fiction stories. /shrug > He's shouting @TheBrometheus down "shouting" ? fascinating. https://twitter.com/danwolfgang_/status/1160927989502304257 …

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    5. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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      26/ I didn't once say "family is slavery". I said that @TheBrometheus's Maoist vision where you have no private property, no privacy, do your laundry together, are forced to work in a family firm, have no right to pick your own spouse, etc. is slavery. https://twitter.com/doctrineofad/status/1160929291070255104 …

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    6. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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      27/ This question is confused, because I haven't once presented a vision here; I've merely criticized one very bad Maoist vision. I am not a visionary. I am not a planner of utopias. I am just a criticizer of hellscapes. https://twitter.com/ReloadedRolf/status/1160929002317635587 …

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    7. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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      28/ well saidhttps://twitter.com/jessepstein/status/1160930322151870465 …

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      Sandwich Lady  🇺🇦 @jessepstein
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      Those tweets are incredibly naive about human nature. No one is going back to live on “family estates.” Most ppl won’t even vacation with family. No one wanted to live like that 1,000 years ago. Especially women.
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    8. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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      29/ Utopians often have poorly researched utopian nostalgia, deeply held. One of the most breathtaking is 1950's advertising-as-gospel. "Back in the day, every guy was issued a good job, a convertible, a blonde waifu, 2.5 kids, and a Coke !"https://twitter.com/debeehr/status/1160930980305281029 …

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      John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt @debeehr
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      Bingo. Been doing some reading up on 19th cent. peasant life. It was often shockingly brutal to modern eyes with the patriarch of the family (and it was almost always a *patriarch*) running roughshod over those below him.
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    9. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

      30/ That's type A of the NRx utopian kid. Type B doesn't look at ads from 1950s life magazine, but instead at the (animated) Disney Robin Hood. "We all would have lived in a big house, had a big pot of stew, been happy all the time, and there'd be a friendly monk to hold mass"pic.twitter.com/eIFmkSVQVX

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    10. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

      31/ It's funny that these utopians look at the historical record being laid down today by the NYT, CNN, globohomo and all of its allies in the textbook business, etc. and say "lies! all lies!" ...and then look at visions of 1950 or 1550 and say "well, THAT'S the real deal!"

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      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

      32/ Are you reading diaries written by people back then? Are you looking at tax records? Court records? Lawsuits? No? You know that factory made fake food you decry? Well, you're eating the information version of it.

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        2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          33/ EXACTLY THE POINT I WAS MAKING! Ancient lawsuits are awesome because they show you (a) people had far more freedom than @TheBrometheus's Maoist vision of universal slavery (b) people were idiots and made bad decisions, just like today. Which >>>https://twitter.com/_FitCrit/status/1160932512618700802 …

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          >property In England, everyone had the right to own and trade property. There are records of deeds from the ~14thC showing a lively trade of land and property amongst “peasants”. Medieval life was So Bad, and yet still somehow still not even remotely as bad as that thread
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        3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

          34/ is quite relevant. If you dream that "well, if a pater familias was in charge, managing the family estate everything would be awesome", you have a GOD DAMNED OBLIGATION to look at ancient lawsuits to see how those pater familiases behaved. It's https://reddit.com/r/legaladvice 

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        4. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          35/ I used that word, because it means "idealized vision" and further "that does not exist" (eu- / u- prefix issue). Now, why do I feel justified in calling his vision utopian? >>> https://twitter.com/danwolfgang_/status/1160933326846341120 …

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        5. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          36/ because of these ~4 tweets https://twitter.com/TheBrometheus/status/1160726693998260224 …

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        6. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          37/ https://twitter.com/TheBrometheus/status/1160726695659225090 …

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        7. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          38/ https://twitter.com/TheBrometheus/status/1160726697001414658 …

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        8. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          39/ https://twitter.com/TheBrometheus/status/1160726698205167616 …

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        9. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

          40/ Brometheus: "these are idealized statements" Morlock: "he describes a utopia" @danwolfgang_: " Please point to where @TheBrometheus used the word 'utopia' or any of its synonyms. " BANG DONE

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        10. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          41/ God damn you bastards, stop reverse Motte-and-Baileying this! Brometheus: you all live in one house, you do your laundry together, your dad choses your spouse me: ugh, that's hell you all: check out Morlock who hates families ! smdh https://twitter.com/danwolfgang_/status/1160934476748382209 …

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        11. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          42/ Brometheus: <hellscape vision> me: that's a hellscape vision you: he never said that me: yes he did, let me quote you: well, OK, sure, he said that, but he preempted all of your critiques stahp STAHPPPPP https://twitter.com/danwolfgang_/status/1160934618255822848 …

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        12. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          43/ rando, sticking head into a pizza shop: "Jesus, I guess this guy just...likes to make pizza, or something? what a weirdo! Pffft!" https://twitter.com/1Alienscomicfan/status/1160934938310533121 …

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        13. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          44/ Few advocating anything have read anything.https://twitter.com/ctdonath/status/1160934797059006464 …

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          Camping Roomba @ctdonath
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          Few advocating a utopia have actually read "Utopia", the point of which was to show how absurd such pursuits tend to turn out. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0082YW4NM 
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        14. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          45/ Search Brometheus's thread for the "not to sugar coat this" phrase. That's where he explains that you have no choice in your spouse, etc. If, in his vision, you can opt out, then his "it does have constraints X, Y, Z" makes no sense. https://twitter.com/JimNanban/status/1160935719357034496 …

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        15. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          46/ I talk to my folks once a week, swap emails ~ daily, and my parents and brother are coming to visit Friday. That doesn't mean I want to live in a house with them, work for my dad, and have him choose my spouse. Fallacy of the excluded middle. https://twitter.com/IcyTekla/status/1160936998154248193 …

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        16. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          47/ The most sophisticated utopian visions say "if the government stopped doing this bad market-distorting thing, then I expect X would arise". The other 99.9% say "X is the best thing, so we must force it to be accepted". 🤔 https://twitter.com/LibertyFarmNH/status/1160937955873239040 …

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        17. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted 𝔻𝕦𝕩 𝔹𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕠𝕣𝕦𝕞

          48/https://twitter.com/Face_Almighty44/status/1160939707544588288 …

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          𝔻𝕦𝕩 𝔹𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕠𝕣𝕦𝕞 @Face_Almighty44
          Replying to @MorlockP @TheBrometheus @danwolfgang_
          I experienced a nuturing nuclear family with a strong but compassionate father and the idea of having something more constructive than that sounds like, as you said, hell. My father encouraged me to leave home, not to seek fortune but to found my own living family. And I did.
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        18. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted 𝔻𝕦𝕩 𝔹𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕠𝕣𝕦𝕞

          49/https://twitter.com/Face_Almighty44/status/1160940420186222592 …

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          𝔻𝕦𝕩 𝔹𝕖𝕝𝕝𝕠𝕣𝕦𝕞 @Face_Almighty44
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          Loving family, dammit. And my wife grew up in a family similar to his misguided fantasy and it turned out very, very badly for them, not least because her father was bad at being the paterfamilias. He was capricious instead of strong and failed to prepare them for the outside.
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        19. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          50/ Fallacy of the excluded middle, my dude. That's been your problem in this entire thread. THE ONLY CHOICE IS BUGMAN HIVES OR PAKISTANI STYLE TRIBAL AREAS !!!1! How about nuclear families in private homes in suburbs paired with fulfilling jobs? https://twitter.com/TheBrometheus/status/1161015484512374784 …

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        20. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          51/ Wife had the same reaction. Like a starving man dreaming of eating a dozen pizzas. https://twitter.com/RaltsB/status/1161022440337805312 …

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        21. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          52/ To the contrary, I think Brom communicated his idea quite clearly and unambiguously. Perhaps what you're saying is that you have a similar idea that differs in some particulars from his idea? https://twitter.com/AmericanDan1776/status/1161024916495511552 …

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        22. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

          53/ > and you attacked what he actually wrote in your usual manner. I wouldn't even call it "attacked". I just analyzed it ruthlessly. Tho the difference is likely only one of motivation and not effect.

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        23. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          54/ Again, I didn't IMPLY anything. I mostly just quoted. If you're saying he expressed his somewhat nebulous ideas w a false degree of certainty, I'm willing to tentatively accept that ( ideally Brom would then agree; I continue to dislike apologia) https://twitter.com/AmericanDan1776/status/1161027258225700864 …

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        24. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          55/ He did explain it in excruciating detail. That's the problem. I just quoted his actual words. Maybe you wish he hadn't said "20 relatives in one big house" or "dad selects your spouse" but ... well, he DID say those things. /shrug https://twitter.com/JesseLucasSaga/status/1161027820392460289 …

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        25. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          56/ I didn't make one thing up. I didn't ask for clarification because Brom wasn't ambiguous. https://twitter.com/Xayveir/status/1161028903764467714 …

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        26. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          57/ This may very well be true. I can only address the words that a writer chooses to put down, not the ones he doesn't. /shrug If Brom wants to take another stab at expressing himself, I will engage in good faith. https://twitter.com/AmericanDan1776/status/1161030298156642307 …

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        27. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          58/ 1) I don't think manor system was terrible. I'm not railing against everything feudal-like. I'm railing against the one PARTICULAR proposal made this morning 2) but to be pedantic: what's your data for saying "people didn't hate it" ? Srs question https://twitter.com/AmericanDan1776/status/1161031452865245184 …

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        28. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

          59/ To expand on "what's your data?", I think this is a really important question for almost every debate, political or otherwise, and I'm as skeptical of the trads saying "everyone loved feudalism" as I am of the commies saying "everyone hated feudalism". Cite facts!

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        29. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

          60/ And the thing is, there probably is not a whole lot of data on what people thought of feudalism. Acknowledging this would take the wind out of sails and temper arguments. "I think feudalism probably sucked / was great for for people like me" is a heck of a sane statement.

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        30. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          61/ @AmericanDan1776 doing God's work in reuniting the fractured tribes of tradcon https://twitter.com/AmericanDan1776/status/1161035701594591232 …

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        31. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 12 Aug 2019

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          62/ And also explaining my Vulcan ways to folks who are not familiar with them. @VarangianSkull has experienced this from the receiving end, didn't much enjoy it, and then later thanked me for treating his ideas and words seriously. https://twitter.com/AmericanDan1776/status/1161037460127846400 …

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