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    1. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

      3/ * "history will not look kindly on those who dedicate their lives to these dreams of living in space."

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    2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

      4/ This is not, in any coherent definition of the term, an argument. But let me steelman a few of his poorly expressed thoughts * space travel is very expensive, and we never consume much of expensive things * we explore for hedonism, and local hedonism is a substitution good

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    3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

      5/ * part of the drive to explore is to find fertile grounds where we can live with less competition with other humans, but because population is going to decline, we are at or near "peak space travel enthusiasm", and it will decline

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    4. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

      6/pic.twitter.com/qPhLG8Gsu4

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    5. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

      7/ Street food in diverse vibrant neighborhoods IS good. And if you're wealthy enough you can have your servant prepare it for you ... or, in 5-15 years, your robot chef. As @pmarca says "software is eating the world". Settlers in L-5, on the moon, on Mars will certainly >>>

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    6. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

      8/ consume the cooking IP generated by people on Earth, but you can send a recipe over a laser data link just fine. Re "space travel is expensive" - so is transoceanic travel. So is air travel. So is car travel. Back in 1850 only the rich could travel to Europe for vacation.

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    7. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

      9/ In 1905 only the rich could drive cars from city to city. In 1930 only the rich could fly on airplanes. In 2019 only the rich can fly to the ISS. However, technology keeps compounding. I don't need to make a hardline extropian / singularity argument, just note compounding

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    8. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

      10/ In 1969 it took 3% of the GDP of the only country that survived WWII unscathed - for ten years - to get cargo into orbit reliably, at tens of thousands of dollars per pound. In 2019 multiple entrepreneurs are competing on price to do the same.

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    9. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

      11/ Are tickets to the ISS / Hilton going to be $500 per person, and $200 per night by next week? Certainly not. ...but there is a list price today, and that's $52 M. This is driven entirely by technology. Apply the "rule of 72". Assume costs drop 5%/yr. >>>

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    10. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

      12/ Which is entirely reasonable and if anything conservative. Look at the costs of other technologies over time. So, 5% / yr means cost halves ever 14 years. So cost of $52M visit drops to $10k (pocket change for the upper middle class) in about 9 halvings. 9 x 14 = 126 years.

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      ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

      13/ So, by 2019 + 126 = 2145 AD, I expect that trips to LEO for vacation will be about as exotic as trips to Europe or Mexico City are today. Which in turn implies that there will be MASSIVE settlement in Earth Orbit and on the moon, and some noticeable human population further

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        2. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Robb Allen

          14/ Also, this is key:https://twitter.com/ItsRobbAllen/status/1143145855987441670 …

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          Robb Allen @ItsRobbAllen
          Replying to @MorlockP @hughhowey
          "part of the drive to explore is to find fertile grounds where we can live with less ------- humans" FIFY
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        3. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

          15/ Multi millionaires don't own 1,000 acre ranches outside of Jackson Hole, and billionaires don't own islands because street food is so excellent and "the world needs their money closer to home". They own these things because people are gross and loud.

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        4. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

          16/ OK, just saw the clock. Need to work. More later, perhaps.

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        5. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Alex "Boreal" Forrest  🚉 🌲

          17/ objection:https://twitter.com/380kmh/status/1143149255789596673 …

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          Alex "Boreal" Forrest  🚉 🌲 @380kmh
          Replying to @MorlockP @pmarca
          you will note that they prefer Jackson Hole etc to Greenland, which is what OP's thread is actually about--nothing to do with "vibrant street food" etc
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        6. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Hugh Howey

          18/ "he said nothing about vibrant street food" rebuttal: he said "the HEDONISM OF CITIES, where SO MANY FOODS, social connections, and types of entertainment can be enjoyed for LITTLE COST." so, yes, he didhttps://twitter.com/hughhowey/status/1134540181363679235 …

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          Hugh HoweyVerified account @hughhowey
          Those influences include the hedonism of cities, where so many foods, social connections, and types of entertainment can be enjoyed for little cost. And the expansion of women's rights and employment which is a large driver of reduced fertility rates.
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        7. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Doctor-Baron 17cShyteposter, DDS

          19/https://twitter.com/17cShyteposter/status/1143016153943404545 …

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          Doctor-Baron 17cShyteposter, DDS @17cShyteposter
          This thread pretends to be a logical argument, but that's sheep's clothing for the moral argument that actually drives it: "No, you can't go live in space. You're going to stay here. You're going to serve us. And you don't get any say in the matter." https://twitter.com/hughhowey/status/1134540120877649921 …
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        8. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Doctor-Baron 17cShyteposter, DDS

          20/https://twitter.com/17cShyteposter/status/1143017211566542850 …

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          Doctor-Baron 17cShyteposter, DDS @17cShyteposter
          It gives itself away in the conclusion: It's "fruitless" to try to leave. You're not allowed to remove yourself from service. You're *supposed* to be dedicating yourself to new social, economic, and political ideas—i.e. progressive ones. You're supposed to stay trapped here. pic.twitter.com/B4e7lTnHT0
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        9. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Doctor-Baron 17cShyteposter, DDS

          21/https://twitter.com/17cShyteposter/status/1143018454598897664 …

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          Doctor-Baron 17cShyteposter, DDS @17cShyteposter
          The funniest part of his line of argument is that he's a techno-utopian. So it's not that we can't manage the tech. Therefore he has to come up with a line of argument for why no group would ever want to found a single colony "Well, it would be unpleasant. So no one would do it" pic.twitter.com/rpuftBbFsW
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        10. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Doctor-Baron 17cShyteposter, DDS

          22/https://twitter.com/17cShyteposter/status/1143020844047724545 …

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          Doctor-Baron 17cShyteposter, DDS @17cShyteposter
          The explicit goal is to funnel everyone into the cities, which he rightly recognizes as hedonism traps—but believes this is a good thing Underlying message is that the hives are going to take an immense amount of techno-brainpower to keep running. So... get on that, Elon Musk pic.twitter.com/vJ8sDEkGnZ
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        11. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Doctor-Baron 17cShyteposter, DDS

          23/https://twitter.com/17cShyteposter/status/1143022987420958720 …

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          Doctor-Baron 17cShyteposter, DDS @17cShyteposter
          In a way, there's an extremely dark truth to this. He's picking up that we're being urbanized, domesticated, cut off from our deep biological impulse to explore, expand, and conquer. And he *wants* the Rat Utopia. The longhouse. Ballard's "High-Rise." This is his dream.
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        12. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

          24/ Also, note that Hugh Howey wants YOU to live in the cities, surrounded by swams of other people. Where does HH - rich from writing SF novels - live? Why on a yacht, by himself, so he doesn't have to live in the cities! https://www.sailingtoday.co.uk/cruising/cruising-stories/hugh-howey/ …pic.twitter.com/RMTEGHB41n

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        13. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

          25/ Freedom-minded working class people have always chafed under the yoke and dreamed of Exit. Elites have ALWAYS hate idea of Exit. From sending bounty hunters after African slaves or Scots Irish who released themselves from indentured service under their own recognizance to >

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        14. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

          26/ Lincoln killing off 3% of the US population to defend the sacred principle that every knee must bow to the federal government, the elites are NEVER willing to let people go. The hilarious thing tho is that HH thinks of himself as a prole revolutionary. He dislikes >

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        15. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

          27/ rich people and their yachts (even as he lives on a catamaran and travels the world), because they physically reify a class structure, with hot tubs up top and kitchens below. ...as if HH living on a yacht and urban poor living in projects doesn't do the same!

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        16. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Стефан Бєльський

          28/https://twitter.com/StefanBielski/status/1143201584307998721 …

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          Стефан Бєльський @StefanBielski
          Replying to @hughhowey
          Even if a colony wouldn't work, .0001% of Earth's population would may pay own money for a one-way ticket to live and die on Mars. pic.twitter.com/dXC5vP998d
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        17. ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs‏ @MorlockP 24 Jun 2019

          ⓘ Dogs don't have thumbs Retweeted Hugh Howey

          29/ What percent of England's population had emigrated to North America by 1600? Did this mean that North America was a "graveyard", with no future? 🤔https://twitter.com/hughhowey/status/1143202496237621258 …

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          Hugh HoweyVerified account @hughhowey
          Replying to @StefanBielski
          Oh, so more a graveyard than a colony then? Cool.
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