2/ The answer (depending on what object-level thing is under debate) will usually be "you can't just force a person to XYZ" or "the big drug companies paid for the study" or something similar. So then I reply >>>
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3/ "OK. But you said that the study was flawed / the legal reasoning was stupid. What was the flaw in the study? How was the legal reasoning stupid?" This goes a few rounds until they admit that they never read the study or the SCOTUS brief or whatever.
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4/ I'm unsure if this Socratic dialogue has ever taught a single one of them anything. ...but I keep trying.
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how's that been working out for you
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They might cite Chesterton's Fence in response.
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