now I want to read an essay about moving between classes, marrying up/down, and gender
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oh gender is an interesting factor I think I partially moved *ladders* by being sufficiently bright and autistic (read: too weird) but have possibly moved *rungs* in part by being sufficiently bright and female
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and pretty
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my tentative theory is that women can move rungs much more easily then men, because they can marry up, and they take on their husband's class (within limits)
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and, of course, women can drop social class pretty easily by having kids while being unmarried
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Yeah my mom wound up in that situation via single parenting + other stuff Adopted dad's family is *happily* well-off blue-collar, but she never got comfortable or lost her assumption that she'd eventually be surrounded by teachers/pastors/ineffective local politicians again
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So I was raised with a *lot* of anxiety about appearing tacky or trashy, her aspirations for me involved marrying or becoming a doctor/lawyer whereas dad saw a path like blue collar geek/engineer -> tech/high earning geek to be a very natural and admirable path
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you know it's really funny hearing about attorneys/doctors being seen as high status i guess because I realize I havent thought about them that way for years like "oh you . . . practice one of the Professions--how delightfully quaint!"
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it would be interesting to see your class hierarchy what's higher than atty/doctor? fully vested SV dilettante? me: out-of-sight rich > CEO / exec > doctor/lawyer > middle trades e.g. engineering > mid-low trades e.g. teachers > low trades e.g. carpenters > labor > unemployed
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Yeah, I think that's about right--I have less insight into the lower tiers and their workings High tier tech employees def outstrip the modal doctor at this point, IMO. More agency at work, fewer hours, better pay and better working conditions
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yeah, both engineering and doctor/lawyer are wide bellcurves Lotta attorneys working for $50/hr (after expenses) doing stupid divorces for people in trailer parks. Lotta engineers living off of Google stock, occasionally doing 30 hours of contracting at $300/hr for <esoteric>
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and it's not dollars alone that define class (I'm sure we both agree) it's refinement / freedom / etc. The soft eng who jets to Thailand on a whim to kayak w friends >>> the debt-burdened doc working fixed schedule at a doc-in-the-box clinic for pay his student loans.
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