the problem is that his One True Fact, followed to its logical extreme, gives us a world where everyone is cashing their UBI checks and playing MMORPGs all day long. It's a True Fact, but it's not the ONLY true fact.
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Replying to @MorlockP @random_eddie
and I tease him lightly not because of his words but because of the cultural baggage that they inevitably bring with them
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Playing MMORPGs all day (or whatever other form of consumption others find desirable) is the end goal. Capitalism is the means to achieve it. It rewards those who sacrifice in order to better satisfy others' desires and thus guides us to the goal. +
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Replying to @random_eddie @MorlockP
Sacrifice to create a better world that nobody else wants is not virtuous, it's either selfish ("I'm a good person!") or wasteful.
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> to create a better world not at all what I was getting at To make an analogy: you can either look at exercise as a pure cost to be born to achieve fitness ... or you can look at it as a form of excellence (virtus / arete) that has value in and of itself.
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I understand what you're getting at, and agree, sort-of. In the idle utopia, the MMO players will be pursuing excellence / virtus / arete, even while doing nothing "productive" (i.e. not increasing the capital stock and productive capacity). +
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I posit that the virtuous elements of work that you proclaim - as distinct from their productive aspects, for which you sacrifice and are rewarded for materially - are best seen as "challenge". Humans need challenge, and are rewarded psychically for both pursuit and success. +
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Replying to @random_eddie @MorlockP
When work is rendered unnecessary except at the extreme margins (or in nano-utopia, perhaps not even there), there will remain challenge. +
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Neo taking the red pill was good there are challenges within the simulation, but they are not the same as / not as meaningful as challenges outside A world of people consuming pulp from the food taps while levelling up as Super Master Blacksmith (simulated) is sad
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You're assuming that everyone will play vidja games. Plenty of people will be LARPing in various ways, fully physically embodied in the real world. Like farming, for instance. Or social work. I certainly agree that different people have different aesthetic values, of course.
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No, I'm not. I said "A world where X", not "the real world will definitely be a world where X". However, it's safe to bet, I think, that 90% of people will X.
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